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theCoffeeEnzyme
2005-03-18
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abuseDid you ever get that forum started? Having a conversation with the logical-unreason is something that arouses me (not sexually of course. curse my dirty mind.). You have a very powerful point and people that flame you need to learn to take their opposers a little more seriously. Perhaps try having a conversation with somone whos views differ from your own rather than just ** them out and complaining? Oh well, I'm not a very big fan of conservatives either. Oh well, if I ever find out you got your forum started, I'll be sure to stop by.
INTP
2004-12-19
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abuseBoring. Everyone thinks their ideas are right and everyone else of wrong. I'm yawning at the idea. Please don't use Dylan Thomas to emphasize your idea. He's a decent guy. Politics are useless; read Dune; get all beliefs from silly science fiction novels. See, I think I'm right about my ideas and everyone else is wrong, too. Inevitable cycle of humanity? What else would it be? Besides, Nietzsche isn't even a liberal. More like fascism, which is on the conservative side of the spectrum. But if you think about it, only in America is "liberalism" associated with larger government, more taxes, etc. To the rest of the world it's small government and serious democracy. Meme is way overused by shrill, hyperbolic "radicals." You think you're a radical, but you just want to do it the same way the ancients have. "Scratch a conservative and you find someone who prefers the past over any future. Scratch a liberal and find a closet aristocrat. It's true! Liberal governments always develop into aristocracies. The bureaucracies betray the true intent of the people who form such governments. Right from the first, the little people who formed the governments which promised to equalize the social burdens found themselves suddenly in the hands of bureaucratic aristocracies." --Leto II. Summing up complexities in simple sentences is the essential human function. Again, yawn.
Maggy May Clark
2004-12-19
ch 1,
abuseHAY I DO LIKE YOUR WORK, WELL SOMEOF IT BUT THIS ONE I HAVE TO SAY HATE IT. WELL I CANT REALLY SAY I HATE IT BECAUSE HATE IS A VERY,VERY, STRONG WORD. AND I TRY TO USE IT AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. WELL I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT I REALLY, REALLY REALLY, DISLIKED THIS ESSAY.

THERE IS A GOD! HOW DO YOU THINK YOU GOT HERE? PRESIDENT BUSH IS A GOOD MAN. A GOOD STRONG CHRISTIAN MAN. "FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONE AND ONLY SNE THAT WHO SOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT PARISH BUT HAVE EVER LASTING LIFE JOHN 3:16"

DID YOU KNOW THAT OUR COUNTRY, YES OUR COUNTER WAS FOUNDED ON STROND LEADERS AND BELEVERS OF CHRIST. YES LIKE GORGE WASHINGTON, JOHN HANCOK, TOMAS EDISON, BENGERMAN FRANKLIND, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

DID YOU ALSO KNOW THAT DARWON THE FOUNDER OF EVOLUTION SAID THAT HE WAS WRONG AND THAT THE EVOLUTION THERY WAS NOT TRUE AND THAT GOD CREATED EVERY THIN. HE SAID SOMETHING CLOSE/ SIMILAR TO THIS WHILE DYING ON HIS DETH BED.I AM NOW GOING TO STOP USING CAPS. SO I CAN STOP YELLING,, BECAUSE WHEN YOU WRITE IN CAPS YOU ARE YELLING, WELL THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEN TOLD. I DO NOT MEAN TO YELL.

Here are some quots from people througgth the yearts that people have written down and recited througth history. I would like you to think and ponder on these quotes and think what yhey mean.

" Patriotism is easy to understand in America; it means looking out for you're self by looking out for your country." Calvin Coolage

"The protection of rights can endore no longer that the performance of our responsibilities." John Fitzgerald Kennedy

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" James Baldwin

"You can't buil a reputation on what you are going to do." Henry Ford

"Life withoutiberty is like body without sperit." Kahhlil Gibran

"Choice, not change, determines one's destiny." Unknown

"If you think education is expencive, try ignorance." Derek Bok

What's write isn't always popular, and what's popular isn't always right." Unknown

"All races and religions: that's America to me." Earl Robinson

"Self diciplen is when you conscience tells you to do something and you dont talk back." W.K.Hope

"Good manners will open doors than the dest education cannot." Clarence Thomas

"Rudness is the weak man's imitation of strength." Eric Hoffer

"The wise man reads both books and life itself." Lin Yutang

If you judge people, you have no time to love them." Mother Teresa

"Every action of our lives touches on some chord that will vibrate in eturnity." Edwin Hubble Chapin

"Freedom is not the right to d as you please, but the liberty to do as you ought"

I am not a liberal or Consurbative. I am just a 16 year old who is a little head strong and want's everyone to know the truth.!1
SCD
2004-12-05
ch 1,
abuseI too am a liberal and proud of it too. But I have to say I agree with strawberryred's review quite a bit. And I'll spit on the bible with you, but I'm not going to say that all Christians or all deists are stupid and wrong. Besides, for all your praising of reasoning and logic over beliefs and morals... you must realize that your reaction against war and censorship and corruption, etc. does come from an idea that there is right and wrong, and so you must wonder where that comes from if we are supposed to just be meat who do not think about that, so the possibility of God must be given some credence. And the fact that Darwin believed in God. Creationists are ridiculous and stubbornly stupid, but the stupidest thing about them is that it's a purposeless argument--evolution does not disprove the existence of God.

Blackmamba said: "By saying that the least educated are Republican, you must be ignorant of the fact that the higher the education in America, the more likely one is to vote, and the more likely that person is to vote Republican." Well, actually if you look at the places with the most colleges and universities in the country--for example, Boston--look how they voted. All the big cities voted Democrat.

(I love New England.)
it really is a REVOLUTION
2004-12-03
ch 1,
abuseI have one thing to say about this:

IT'S ABOUT TIME! AMEN! I am SO glad that there are other smart people out there in the world! I am so sick of hearing idiot republicans and fundamentalists preaching their right wing ** to me that I could die. My cousin and I set up a kind of satirical but somewhat childish website poking fun at Bush and his stupid administration: w.ikilledamerica.friendpages.com is where it can be found. You seem like a very intelligent person, I'm glad there's another liberal as big as I am out there. Liberals unite!
Arien Gwathwen
2004-12-03
ch 1,
abuseHm...pretty good essay, overall, but you might want to check your spelling (dieing?) and puncuation. Also, the CAPS TO DRAW THE EYE thing really isn't going to make people take you seriously, now is it? On the other hand, the metaphors were clever; I really liked the "moral compass" one in particular. However, there was only one matter I wholeheartedly agreed with you on. Anne Coulter sucks.
On Mercury
2004-12-02
ch 1,
abuseYou are great!!

Bring it on, Religious Right.

OM
Leigh Hunt
2004-11-29
ch 1,
abuseMan, Liberals are somethings. You guys just love these little rants with slogans, chants, etc... This is like an underground flier or something. But I understand, you guys need to keep yourselves motivated in these hard times, all you got left is rants and prozac.

I never argue with liberals about politics because you guys are just zealots of marxism, although its very fat-free marxism these days. You people are against guns, never owned a gun, scared of violance, yet somehow you think you can win a civil war. Thats why nobody is scared of you pill-poppers.

But just to give you some advice, try actually studying the history of Liberalism. Modern Liberalism, like I said before, is fat-free Marxism, you guys claim you'll overthrow the corporations with their own greed, but for now you're busy seeing a shrink about 2k4 Elections. But just try to find a fair source of information about Engels, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. Probably'll need pills because the truth would just hurt.
Calvin Fitzgerald
2004-11-29
ch 1,
abuse"If you are to email me or argue with me, please don’t discuss American politics with me. I’m hopeless at expressing economic and political arguments in words." -Logical Unreason

If you admit that you cannot articulate geopolitical and economic issues then what was the sense of the previous dozen or so paragraphs? Then again at least you have the sense to point out that the essay is complete drivel.

Calvin Fitzgerald
Voronwe
2004-11-28
ch 1,
abuseI can't say I'm as liberal you are, logical-unreason, but I do admire you for your no-** statement of your beliefs. Take care.

-V
lili brik
2004-11-28
ch 1,
abusewow thanks for reminding that i hate stupid liberals as much as stupid conservatives.what does politically liberal have to do with not believing in God? *wipes spit off* you people tire me, yet i read your attempts at writing anyway. hmm. i guess you don't like discussing politics because the only thing you can do well is spout out generalizations and attempt to be witty.
SilentBlueRose
2004-11-27
ch 1,
abuseOkay, so let me get this straight. I'm an idiot just because of the fact that I'm a Christian, and that I think that Bush is an okay guy. Regardless of the fact that I have an IQ of 132, or that I'm at the top of my class, or that I've scored extraordinarily high on my standardized tests every year... I'm still an idiot, right?

And this coming from the person who spelled 'dying' incorrectly...

Listen, it's fine that you're a liberal, okay? Good for you. I don't care. But it's really not cool for you to be going around calling those of us who think differently than you, or have faith, stupid. It really doesn't have a good affect on your argument that liberals are nonjudgmental and perfect.

Don't diss conservatives. In fact, why don't you try to get to know some of them. Maybe you'll realise we're people just like you and not ignorant hicks blindly following a chimp.

Have a nice day.
Gemma Viridian
2004-11-27
ch 1,
abuseAfter you drop the "stupid christian" jokes, please go public. We liberals need more people like you. People fail to realize that liberals are the ones who keep this country moving forward. Oh well. I am a liberal and proud, though thoroughly under appreciated.
strawberryred
2004-11-27
ch 1,
abuseI’M DOING WHAT YOU DO, SEE? USING CAPS TO CATCH THE EYE!

If the caps didn’t work, you’re obviously not reading this, but if you are, I’ve obviously caught your eye. Since I can safely assume you’re reading this: I’m not Christian. I will not preach the values of Christianity to you. I am atheist. And liberal. But…just keep reading. Please? Read this whole review (all three pages, yes it’s long and no I don’t just want to make it another essay, how would I make sure you read it?) and don't dismiss me as a moron after the first few sentences and leave. It'd be your loss anyway; a good argument never hurt anyone.

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I do like your poems, by the way... its just your essays... well... as an essay and as an argument, your stuff has almost as many mistakes in the logic as there are in the grammar...not that I really care about the latter.

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Okay. This particular piece. First bit that bothered me. "...when a point of view is horribly wrong and damaging to the world at large and not just the people that hold it, it must be corrected..." That was in the second paragraph. The thing is, "horribly wrong" is a subjective word. It's an opinion. "Horribly wrong" is "Amazingly right" in someone else's world, and you have to right to judge a point of view as wrong or right. You aren't god, and if you believe what you say, no one is. If no one is god and we're all just humans, then we're all equal. Thus, you can't judge his point of view as right or wrong. The same logic holds true for "horribly damaging.".

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The biggest problem with this statement though is your implication that you have to "correct" someone's point of view. Not only do you want to limit free speech and thought to what "correct" from your point of view, but you express a very Christian desire in doing so. How ironic is it that first you say "freedom of expression is thought of as the highest human quality" and then you go on to express the idea that certain ideas must be stifled because liberals think they're wrong. In reality, you only want freedom of speech for those who agree with you. The beauty of freedom of expression is that you are given the freedom to express ideas that may be wrong and ideas that may contradict the majority. That is why people can protest the war. And that is exactly why you can't stifle a Christian Republican point of view. Even more ironic is that it is a traditionally criticized aspect of Christianity that they are forever trying to impose their "correct" religion onto other "wrong" religions. It's pretty much accepted that Christians persecuting Native Americans in the name of Jesus was wrong, so why are you allowed to force your "right" ideas onto others, when they may, in fact, be wrong?

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Another point that bothered me. "Modern democracy was set up by liberals..." I'm not even going to start to point out the flaws in this statement, as it would take up too much room. PROVE IT. I'll leave it at that.

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There's another tiny assumption of yours that irritates the heck out of me. READ: enormous, false, stereotypical assumption. Throughout the entire "essay" if you want to call it that, though "vaguely collected liberal slogans and thinly if at all veiled insults" may fit better, you keep implying that liberals are "intelligent" while anyone who has ever touched a bible or even said a sentence with 'Bush' and not 'moron' in it is a complete imbecilic blind sheep who is ruining the world. You may have added “I’m not calling all republicans stupid” but that’s like robbing a bank and saying “I’m not stealing, just walking out a door holding a sack of money.” I'm liberal, but I've met way too many intelligent, thoughtful, atheist Republicans to write anything like this. I'm sorry if you haven't met any (your loss) but take my word for this one, they DO exist. "Intelligence over ignorance” is nice, but you aren’t really innocent of ignorance either. Tell me, have you ever really sat and listened to a Christian priest? Have you ever attended a Republican rally? Are you Iraqi? Are you George Bush? Are you standing there counting the people who die? If the answer to any of the above is no, then I’m afraid that you aren’t the god of liberal righteousness.

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“93 percent of the world population…,” Okay now. Just out of pure, innocent, neutral curiosity, where did this figure come from? I’m not saying its wrong, but where did it come from? And if it’s Dan Rather or something similar… I rest my case.

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Your whole idea about “However because we can’t vote for your president America shouldn’t be able to deem other countries as anti democratic and “liberate” them”… I’m not saying you’re wrong. We shouldn’t “liberate” other countries, it’s true. But, again, from a purely intellectual argument’s point of view, there’s flaws there. A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square. Heard of it? America is part of the world, but the world is not America. I can’t understand why France should vote for America’s president, but I can understand why America, as a country on earth, would want to play a role in world affairs.

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“it would be beneficial for society as a whole for the immediate elimination or reeducation of all those with the faith affliction…” Where have I heard the world reeducation…hmm… let’s see. Christians persecuting other religions… Communist camps… And I’m NOT calling all liberals Communist, before I give you a chance to jump on that accusation and dismiss me as another stupid, religious Republican. Considering I am an atheist Democrat. I can’t even tell if you’re being sarcastic! Please, say you are and that I’m an idiot for actually thinking that someone who claims they’re an intelligent liberal could say that. In case you weren’t sarcastic: you want to “eliminate” people? You are, I’m afraid, converting living breathing humans into not so much more then intellectual assets. You want to kill the Christians? Say you were sarcastic. Say I’m an idiot for thinking you were serious. PLEASE….

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“you’re wasting your life worshiping a God that does not exist”… believe it, sure, whatever. I don’t think he exists either, but that’s not the point. You’re forcing your views on someone else. Because, naturally, you’re “right….”… right?

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Sorry, I’m really sincerely apologetic for myself here, I’m being retarded and stupid, but I took grammar and I can’t help it! Dying it not spelled with an ‘ie’… yes, I know. Yell. Sorry. Okay, back to dismantling your arguments…

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“religious brain washing from an early age stunts the logical processes and must rate highly as the greatest blunders and self inflicted crimes mankind has ever perpetrated…” Nice big words. Am I supposed to be impressed? Explain something to me, okay? Einstein was raised religious. Not only that, but he never stopped believing in some form of a higher being. And there can no one who will say that he isn’t intelligent…

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I am liberal AND (not a, and!) I’m proud of it. Seriously. But. This whole arrogant, self-righteous attitude is really irritating! If you wish to convert people, please, write an intelligent, persuasive piece with plenty of support. Don’t spew pretty liberal catchphrases and act like you’re the only brilliant, gifted one who has somehow seen the light, and liberals are these geniuses among grunting masses of Christians.

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Until next time!

-Strawberry Red
fugiguru
2004-11-27
ch 1,
abusethis was a masterpiece, plainly and simply. you are brilliant and wise. as i'm sure you've heard before, i want to be just like you when i grow up. don't ever change. um.. and... uh.. do you think about me, when you.. ah.. nevermind...
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