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keisuke-victor
Topic: Pros and Cons of Various Cars/ Automotive Gadgets/ Tuners
Hi! 2 those who are car/automotive geniuses or any writers who are fond to make stories on street racing, you can share anything about cars right here as well. You can write about the strengths and weaknesses of every sports/ commercial car that you like, or share anything about car parts like engine types (4 inline, V6, V8), turbochargers and superchargers. you can also describe how things work as well. C'mon! Please share some of your knowledge here.
#1 Oct 24th 2006, 11:35am
Burnt Bread
Eh... I drive a Volvo, and it's a monster, not a car. So I don't know anything about cars, but I can tell you this: some drunk angry man kicked the Volvo pretty hard, and instead of denting the car, he dented his leg. Don't mess with volvos. And it's an automatic so I don't know anything about changing gears...well, I did learn for the test, but I've forgotten. Apparently, you have twiddle some stick around and I'm really not into that kind of thing. I'm really not into any sort of public stick twiddling let alone sharing the experience.

V8. Well, every year where I live, there's this big race with V8s(the Lexmark Indy) by the beach and they get the airforce and navy in to do air shows as well. Biiiig event. Apparently, Australians like V8 engines? I have a friend who's into Holdens.

If you want to write a story about street racing, all I can think of to recommend are the Fast and Furious movies. Not alot of racing (lots of boobs though), but I'm sure there's stuff in the DVD features, especially in Tokyo Drift which was just a cheap rip off of Initial D.

And if you're not a mainstream person, and you are an anime nut, I would recommend you read/watch Initial D.

Are you in the process of writing a race fic?

#2 Oct 24th 2006, 5:37pm
keisuke-victor
I am an Initial D fan and by fav characters are Ryousuke and Keisuke Takahashi overall. Yea, I will writing a 5 series novel about street racing. I just wrote out the 1st chapter already.

Fast and the Furious....did you mainly notice that the main car there is mostly the Mitsubishi Lan EVO VIII? My main cars here are a 360 hp Toyota Supra Mk. 4, a Nissan Skyline that was being described as a concept car. (The concept car was actually abandoned due to lack of money, but the R34 was given an engine that is capable of squezzing out 500 hp - something like a Z-Tune) and a supercharged Nissan 350Z.

By the way, what kind of Volvo is that? the S40?

#3 Oct 24th 2006, 8:08pm
Burnt Bread
Well, as I said, I dont know much about cars, but if you write something good, maybe I'll become interested. I like seeing concept technology in fiction, but you might want to describe the cars in less jargon terms so that you have a wider readership.

I think Mitsubishi called in some big favors and dug deep into their pockets for those movies. All three movies featured their cars as cars the good guys drove which I thought was a bit too obvious. It's like: stick with mitsubishi and you'll look really cool and stoop lots of bad guys.

My volvo is an old 960 limousine and despite being unfashionably old, the paint's still on, it's looking great and hasn't failed me yet.

#4 Oct 24th 2006, 8:43pm
keisuke-victor
Sharing new info here... This is about DRIVETRAINS and LAYOUT

Writers who wishes to select a car which is suitable of making the whole story works really must put drivetrains as one of the priority. Why? Drivetrains tremendously affect every car's performance.

Starting with FR (Front Engine, Rear Wheel Drive) -

FR is the most common layout for passenger cars like the Sentra and the Toyota Corolla Vios/ Altis. It os also used to design performance cars like the Nissan Fairlady 350Z, Toyota Supra, Mazda RX7, Mazda RX8 and the BMW 6 series, etc. Even the popular Initial D car the Toyota Corolla Trueno/ Levin AE86 is also an FR! The pros of an FR is this car is steady in cornering, as weight easily transfer around the car during cornering. Thus, it is suitable for drifting. Traction is good as many choose this setting for racing. Cons? Because the grip is from the back during acceleration, the FR car will be easily spinned out when being knocked at the back. That's why the police bumps cars on the back during a chase. At the same time, FR cars are heavier than FFs.

Next, FF (Front Engine, Front Wheel Drive) -

FF is mainly used in most Honda cars. The fastest FF is the Fiat Coupe which have a 20v engine that was turbo-ed. 2 Fast 2 Furious' Mitsubishi Eclipse (Tyrese's car) is also an FF. Pros: FF cars are inexpensive, first of all. In terms of cornering, FFs are more effective in accelerating after cornering, as the grip is more in the front. At the same time, this type of drivetrain enables the car to accelerate better in rough terrain, like snow or mud. Disadvantages , cons - they are more likely to be spun out easily, meaning less traction as the back of the car had less grip during acceleration.

Now, my most fav - the All Wheel Drive (AWD/4WD) -

This is the most suitable drivetrain in terms of balance in cornering, traction and acceleration. It is a must for rally cars, like the Mitsubishi Lan EVO IX, Subaru Impreza WRX STi, the previous Toyota Celica GT4, BMW M3, and the Nissan Skyline GTR (except the ER34 model- the FR version Skyline). Pros: They have the traction and the grip during cornering. Because 4 of the car's wheel are moving when the gas pedal is stepped, this car had the least probability of being spun out or oversteered. Thus, the car is consistent and awesome. The Mitsubishi Lan EVO IX can accelerate 4.46 seconds is due to this drivetrain, even though having a 286 hp 4-cylinders turbocharged engine. Usually, cars with V6 and V8 that needs more than 300 hp are the ones that can archive such acceleration performance. Unfortunately, the cons are, this car is heavy because there are many parts in the car, meaning, it is expensive. Yet, this is the best car layout so far.

MR (Mid Engine, Rear Wheel Drive) -

Another type of drivetrain which is used in Formula One type cars. One example of this type of car is the Toyota MR2. The early VW Beetle also use this drivetrain. Pros: They have extra grip in the back, this increasing acceleration performance. Cons: Handling performance are affected due to the lack of weight transfered to the front. And it easily to be oversteered!

Hopefully, I am right in all these. I just hope you all can choose the right car and learn something from this.

#5 Oct 28th 2006, 11:37pm
Burnt Bread
Keisuke, just so you know, I'm recruiting you to write for the Stop The Press newsletter and will contact you in a suitable way when the next writing topic is finalized. I think that your knowledge of cars is formidable and that you would make a good advisor for authors who wish to include motor vehicles in their writing.

If you're interested, http://www.fictionpress.com/~stopthepress

I will email you personally with the next topic in November.

#6 Oct 29th 2006, 1:08am
keisuke-victor
Now...sharing new infos on street racing..

Starting from Malaysia...

Since the latest local film "Remp-It" was released, street racing here became more and more common in the highway. It's not about Ford Mustangs and Chevys gathering in the streets like in the U.S, it's a motorbike frenzy in the roads of Malaysia. U will see scooters and motorbikes in every shapes, types of engines and sizes racing in a number of more than 5. One of the driver's stunt used commonly here is the "Superman" style, which made many suffered as they find it hardly difficult to reposition him/herself back to his/her proper post when cycling. Thus, many died during the race after performing this stunt. The police is now concerned with this already.

#7 Nov 03rd 2006, 11:18pm
Outlaw02 Extreme
This might be a year late in terms of responding to this, but I'm writing a racing fic myself. It's available in my profile, which goes by the title of "Racer 666: Shutokou Wars". The intro might be a little cheesy, but in later chapters, it smoothens out. It concentrates on the Shuto Highway in Japan, and is inspired by Wangan Midnight and Tokyo Xtreme Racer 3 instead of the... revolting Fast and Furious Series.

Storyline is very much inspired by Wangan Midnight itself, but twisted in a way that it feels very original. I've taken rather close consideration on the physics, but I can only make do with "pseudo-realistic", meaning that there maybe some areas that are impossible to execute or laws of physics that have been bent. But no matter, it has spanned 5 forums, of which two forums have stickied this prose.

Anyway, I'm very much interested on how the Lancia Delta S4's engine was. It's a 1800cc straight-4 engine that has a turbocharger, and a supercharger combined, and produces an enormous 550HP at its time. That's 50HP more than the Audi Quattro S1 back then. But, I'm wondering if there's any cons to such an engine that has a supercharger, and turbocharger. I may need info on that. Hope this necro of a thread doesn't bother anyone.

#8 Nov 10th 2007, 5:27am
keisuke-victor
I'm kinda interested with the legendary Lancia Delta. It's a very good thing to have a combi of a supercharger and turbocharger on its engine. But, here are some cons (depending on what type of turbo you are using.)

The engine with these boosters are said to be capable of emitting 550 HP. It is good, yet, you should think of the consistency of the engine. Every turbocharger has its own resistance on giving their maximum output, which is known as turbo lag. It is due to the choice of the turbocharger you are using and the geometric shape that will affect it.

Superchargers, however, don't have the turbo lag. Yet, it does have the problem on temperature. Besides, handling performance of the car might be affected as the car is boosted just to have the upper hand when it goes straight. It's best to balance the car's boost with its efficiency when cornering. So, imagine what will happen to the car's performance in handling when a supercharger/turbo configuration is installed into the engine. However, cutting edge suspension systems will overcome it.

I'm looking forward to finish my fiction, too bad I don't have much time for me, as I'm now in college, which is more hectic. Anyway, I will see your fiction and hopefully I got the time to comment it.

#9 Nov 12th 2007, 6:02pm
Outlaw02 Extreme
Thanks for the info. Thank God I added on the antagonist's (An old Z432), about having rather slippery handling since it had a combo super-turbo-charged engine. As for the temperature wise, what would be best to counter it? I know just chucking in a better intercooler won't do much to the problem, except for the turbo part, which would have a significant effect.

EDIT: I think I'll point out one thing about my racing prose. They are written not with real physics. Instead, pseudo-realistic is what I'm using (Imeant that some parts are possible to occur, while there are other areas that are not real, or impossible to happen). Some areas, one can find impossible to take place. I know about it.

#10 Nov 13th 2007, 8:49am . Edited Nov 13th 2007, 10:19am
keisuke-victor
Besides of inserting a better intercooler, why not consider the ECU (Engine Control Unit)? ECUs are another catalyst that balances the vehicle's turbo boost, torque and other performances with the fuel consumption and engine temperature. Many find this accessory a useful item for drivers to increase their cars' performance. To ensure a better tuning, professional tuners are able to forfill their customers' needs on tuning a better car.
#11 Nov 17th 2007, 12:04am

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