Oh my god. Dude, do it. I would so read it. I've been trying to do that but I get lazy easily.

For writing it, just break it down into small parts of like 4 or 5 chapters, then write them whenever the inspiration hits you. It'll make it easier for you. Oh yeah, the Superbowl is almost on. Should be a good game.

I'm not sure what people are afraid of, but I'm mainly afraid of somehow someone "out there" has written something similar to what I'm writing right now. So I've been changing shit around and character names.

For writing it, just break it down into small parts of like 4 or 5 chapters, then write them whenever the inspiration hits you.

Yeah I've been doing that and breaking it down into chapters I kind of wanted to have at least 14 chapters.

Oh yeah, the Superbowl is almost on. Should be a good game.

Goddamnit..I'm so fucking pissed. I haven't been this mad since they banned dodgeball in gym class when I was in elementary school... or stopped selling warhead candy in the cafeteria...

Goddamnit..I'm so fucking pissed. I haven't been this mad since they banned dodgeball in gym class when I was in elementary school... or stopped selling warhead candy in the cafeteria...

That's mad . . . ohhhhh dear . . .

You have a couple of stories posted; you can contact a publisher.

Michael

I don't know. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I think the time spent writing for this site could be used to write a novel to be published. Even if you don't think you're good enough, you'll never know for sure until you try. If you find that your story isn't good enough, then you can post it here and there's no harm done. Or there's always the option of self-publishing.

But to each his own, I guess.

That's pretty true. Like posting on here is kind of just for fun. But you could also do it for input but rarely does that happen as you've planned. So...in a sense it's just the deviantart of fiction...deviantart's writing section sucks ass though so yeah.... this is better?

R.L., I agree about you too. I am quite fond of your stories!

Hah thanks :D

I don't want to be like Christopher Paolini and publish a book when I'm not ready but I do understand where you're going with this. I'm only fourteen and I'm afraid no one will take me seriously; after five years of writing my dad is only taking me seriously now because I've won the family some money in contests.

I wouldn't rush it really if I were you because you are fourteen. And usually as you get older you gain more experience. So if you publish your first book at age fourteen and you look back at it compared to what you may have in the future you'd be like "oh...shit." But that's totally up to you, and my take on the situation. Plus with Paolini people just took his age into consideration really, the book was apparently cliche and predictable but because he was 16 or 15 when he wrote it, it got him some attention. Not so much the context of the book really.

In reality, I forced myself to read his books JUST because he was 15 as well. I found myself growing steadily bored....but enough about him; there was once a 50 page argument on Nanowrimo about him so no more of THAT again. They actually made me feel sorry for the boy!

Seriously, you should give it a try. You seem to be a perfectionist when it comes to your writing and that's just the type of person I would love to read a novel written by.

~WriterGurlLW

*Cough* Ey, ignore me and continue your discussion :-)

You mean like the way _Alas, Babylon_ is similar to _On the Beach_?

Michael

Oh, Rab. EVERYTHING is influenced. Don't worry about it. There are more possible moves in a chess game then particles in the universe. So, anything you write, with your caliber, is mnost definately bound to be original! Especially with what I've read of your stories.

If you want to, go for it!

I wish to get more experince first before I initiate into something so hard. DeviantArt's writing section DOES suck! I'm registered there, and until I start drawing again I'll be posting stories there.

This is going to sound kind of weird but it's true. People who read a lot are pretty decent writers. So I think it's a good idea to experiment with your writing and certain genres(which you've been doing) while reading on your freetime or whatnot. Because then as Arimaspy was saying about Paolini, authors pretty much teach you what to do and what not to do. I kind of gave up drawing, except I'm in an art class just for the decent grade I can manage..slacker.. But yeah, the DeviantArt writing section is filled with like journal entry type stuff. I wouldn't bother putting fiction up there because no one ever looks at it. But if you want to post some fiction on there go ahead. Maybe actual writers will see it and decide to put theirs up as well and scare off those myspace/xanga addicts.

Oh, Rab. EVERYTHING is influenced. Don't worry about it. There are more possible moves in a chess game then particles in the universe.

Nice way of putting it hah.

If a witty person like Dice got a book published, I'd freak out and read it right away.

P.S. Since I think it isn't important to anybody else, I had an unusually good day today with lots of foods and junk food, and lots of dancing with my crush who is already taken. I had a nice nap last period to calm it all down. Feels like a friday instead of a lousy wednesday and everyone thought my TWO PAGE story was too long. They didn't care about the quality. Only a few did. That sucks. But who cares, I danced with my crush and freeloaded!

Me too. Especially because he's always right about everything. It would be interesting to read Dice's philosophies and think 'aaaaarggggg, he's right again, darn him!" It would be a) incredibly fun or b) I'd get angry at him. But either way, it would be an awsome read.

Since I think it isn't important to anybody else, I had an unusually good day today with lots of foods and junk food, and lots of dancing with my crush who is already taken.

Yay! Good for you. I bet he's cute. XD

I was sick again, but I got to hang out with a friend I rarely see anymore, and I realized how much I missed her. So that was fun. ^-^

I've posted a picture of one of my characters on deviant. As expected no one has viewed it. But, I hope to upload some hand-drawn fan-art I'm proud of, so maybe people will look at that.

Yeah people there usually like anime fanart.

I'm still gonna wait. I need to drink more from the Fountain of Wisdom before I apply my knowledge. But it's great that you're doing it.

Me too. Especially because he's always right about everything. It would be interesting to read Dice's philosophies and think 'aaaaarggggg, he's right again, darn him!" It would be a) incredibly fun or b) I'd get angry at him. But either way, it would be an awsome read.

You should try e-mailing him... ;) Then it gets REALLY annoying.

You people crack me up.

Yeah, I have a deviantart account, but I never use it.

My crush is shorter than I am, and I am short. He has really bright blue eyes, dark blond hair, and acne-Free skin. I don't think he likes me or his girlfriend but...it doesn't matter because I'm not ready for all that stuff anyway. Relationships make me a dum, giddy little girl who thinks my life revolves around my boyfriend. I HATE that more then anything. I can't help myself. I like him more and more everyday it seems. Today, we drank milkshake and danced for no apparent reason again. we play wrestled but then stopped for various reasons (I was winning!!!) Anyways, enough about that. I have two sides and the other one is beginning to show itself. I think I just BUTCHERED my reputation.

so....what in the world were we talking about?

Yes, Dice is very widely known and appreciated.

The impression I get from you is a very smart person who I'd really get along with well in real life. I can't wait to get the time to read some of your writing. ^_^

Anyway... Right now I've got a little/semi-big problem(s). Okay so I finished re-writing/editing the first chapter(hoping that there's 14 chapters) of a "book in progress". I've had this idea for awhile blah blah blah finished the semi-last chapter before I did the first one blah blah blah ANYWAY.. The first chapter is written in third person POV and the second chapter was originally written in third person as well but it didn't have much feeling to it and seemed a little confusing so I changed it to first and I'm going to have to have the rest of the chapters following it all in first person as well except for the very last one...But I don't know after reading half of the second chapter it kind of seems elementary to be in first person.

Anyway another issue:

AVG FB = 150,000W

AVG W per P = 440W

150,000W/440W = 340P

---

What I have:

C1 = 5440W (actually 5442 but just putting 5440 to be easier)

5440W/440W = 12P w/ 162W R

1C = (about)12P

(about)12P per 14C = 168P

Key: W = Words, C = Chapter, P = Page(s), AVG = average, FB = fictional book, R = Remaining

Considering if most my chapters following fall into the same range... I am fucked.

Yeah I guess I'll see how it turns out in the end. I don't want to be all Charles Dickens about it..

Dude I'm going to write it how I've planned and when I'm done I'm just going to leave it and beg like fuck to some publisher if it's apparently too short. So far like the semi-last chapter is already 12,000 something words so I guess the first few chapters may be short because there's not a lot going on then... But yeah I just freaked out a little...

Michael

Errr... no?

There's a lot more harder stuff too it, like don't go for the big publishers first. They're MUCH harder. Have a blast with this whole deal and get ready for rejections. J.K. Rowling was turned down by just about every body in the UK and USA before she was published and look at her now!

Ouch.

My goal so far is to write a piece of fiction longer than 1500 words. I've been that apprehensive about long stories. I have an idea for something that would fit (may even be novelette or novella length), but I'm afraid I'll chicken out at the last minute.

From what I've read/heard, if you want to submit a book to a publishing company without an agent, you should at least send a cover letter asking if the company will even consider read your manuscript. Of course, you could always sent your manuscript unsolicited (that's how Cold Mountain was found), but unsolicited manuscripts generally have a bad reputation among publishers.

P.S. too bad you're leaving though. I should go back and favorite that as a way to remember you.

Yeah, I'll be sure to let you know when my career takes off. I'm not really leaving. I'm just not posting stories here anymore, though I might do an essay or poem every now and then. Even if I do get a story published, I'll still need somewhere to rant and blow off steam. I don't feel like making a blog or seeing a therapist, so this is as good a place as any.

Well, we hope a book . . . and a good one, too!

I kinda understand Dice. I was INCREDIBLY inspired a couple days ago, and it's still attached to me. So, I've finnally start revising my old novel. And, well, then I realized I hadn't written anything for FP in ages, and posted something immediately. It was kinda sad, but happy too.

That's why I like sights like these so much. They're like a playground for us writers - a way to overcome the first fears of 'oh, can I really write?" And it's one of the few things that transitions into the real world. Because even before internet, writers were in a world of their own. So really, is it that different? I was just musing a while ago, as I am apt to do, on Mary Shelly, for a school report. Even in the 1800s she was surrounded by other writers, and how much that was like this sight. Writers, on a whole, from my observations, are a rather communial, sociable group, aren't we? Do we long for praise, or for critizm. And why am I writing all this?

Well, through very long windedness, congradulations!

I'm craaazy about Mary Shelley. I did her for a school report, too! *high five*

An urban fantasy novel. I'm too lazy to create my own world, so I might as well jack our own and throw some magical stuff in. I think I might have to avoid saying that if I'm ever interviewed someday, though. There's only so much honesty people can take.

Do we long for praise, or for critizm.

I used to, but not so much anymore. I'd rather just take your money and let you keep your thoughts to yourself. Thank goodness no one's interviewing me...

I think I'd rather have the praise and criticism, than boatloads of cash money. That's just me, though. There has always been a deep dark part of my soul that wants to be famous to some degree, I'm just not willing to sell myself out to get there.

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