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Jay-Alonzo
Topic: Question about chapter girth and posting
I have recently written a novel and I'm posting it here on fictionpress, my prologue is only 8 pages and at least one person likes it, but the problem is that my first chapter is a standard 22 pages. I don't want to give my readers the idea that this was a short story but then whip out a long post- but then again I don't want to split the chapter and not have anything action-packed happen for almost a month (as I plan to release a new chapter every two weeks).

Should I post the entire chapter or try to edit it down/split it?

As a reader what do you all think?

#1 Feb 01st, 6:45am
Melissa Norvell
Well, most readers expect your first chapter to be a little short because they read them like prolouges. I think instead of trying to cut it down and ruining the creativity that you put into it, why not just leave an author's note explaining your chapter lengths and apologizing if you perhaps gave someone the wrong idea. That's what I'd do anyway especially since every chapter after it will be that way (or at least from my understanding). There's no use in cutting things out for the readers because of sheer length alone.

I write long chapters and I'll be honest not all of them are consistant sometimes they are shorter (but never really less then 15 pages) and some are quite long. It's really where I want to stop writing.

But if this worries you any, you can always cut them down and edit them.

I think its a bit of a shame to do that but its purely your choice as an author.

~Melissa

#2 Feb 05th, 5:20pm
Jay-Alonzo
Ah I just noticed this, well actually I got a couple of flames regarding "the story being 75 percent talk so clearly it will never become a novel" but other than that I've got about 4 subscriptions so it worked out in the long run. Besides most of the stuff I put in was way too important to abbreviate or cut down on.

Thanks for your response.

#3 Feb 20th, 11:24pm
KurenaiYume
Let me see...a relatively short Prologue versus a long Chapter One? Well, I'll just state a few things.

First question you need to ask yourself. Do you need a Prologue? Most, if not all, beginning writers instantly think they need a Prologue for their story. Most cases, you don't need it. Just jump right into the story, into the action, into the plot without bogging it down with useless exposition that can be shown later through your characters, rather than the narrator. Adding a prologue, especially for starting writers, will do more harm than good. Unless you know how to execute it really, really well.

Note: Pure exposition/info-dumping is the worst way to do a prologue...seriously...

Next, never, ever split a chapter just because it's long, or add when it's short. Some of the best stories I've read...are only 3-5 pages long. In Anime, the best one I've watched - and this is comparing series, OVA's, everything - is about 30 minutes long, give or take several minutes. And both are complete stories. Length consistency? Who cares? I don't. I just want to read a good, interesting story.

Instead, you should ask yourself this: Does this chapter (or prologue) do what I want it to do without useless, irrelevant information, and is concise and straight to the point? If not, then you need to make changes, depending on your problem. Adding to the length and not to the development of your story, however, will do more harm than good. And if you're going to publish, you need to be around 100,000 words for a novel, unless you're established (Might want to check on that limit).

And I just went through your reviews...I think you really need to follow up on what checkbookstub says - he seems to know what he's doing as an editor. If those problems are clearly evident, then, it doesn't matter how long/short your story is - it'll just kill the reader's interest in your story, except for those who are very persistent. So, right now, length is the least of your worries. What checkbookstub says, is.

Anyways, good luck with your novel! I'd review...but I'm backlogged...yeah.

#4 Feb 21st, 4:59pm . Edited Feb 21st, 5:14pm
Dice Darwin
Depends on the type of writer you are. If you're more artistic, and want your writing to be "whole or nothing at all," then don't shorten your chapters or do anything for anyone other than yourself. If you're mostly just interested in telling your story to as many people as possible, shorten your chapters as much as possible without ruining it.

It's best to find a comfortable chapter size. Failing that, I think too short is almost always better than too long, unless you're a popular writer with a built-in fanbase. Popular writers, be it on this site or in the publishing industry, get the benefit of the doubt at lot more than an unknown writer. So for example, Stephen King can probably write anything he wants and his fans would at least give it a serious chance. Meanwhile, Joe Schmo--with the exact same novel--might not get someone to read past the second page. I haven't checked, so I don't know which category you fall under, popularity-wise.

And I've been studying the chapter length of published novels. James Patterson novels tend to have a chapter length of around 500 words. He's not the only writer that writes chapters so small, either, but they tend to be in either children's fiction or in thrillers. But thrillers are thrilling for a reason, and many children have short attention spans yet children's books often grab them, so maybe they're onto something. I wouldn't suggest something that short, especially on this site where the computer screen makes a decent sized chapter look small. From my personal experience, around 2,000 words works best on this site. Its always worked for me.

Here's a tip: re-read your chapter. If at any point, the chapter stops losing its intensity and/or excitement, end the chapter gracefully. Don't just hack it off, re-word it (as little as possilble, though) to give it a hooking ending. It doesn't matter if it's 1,000 words long or 10,000 words long, readers will go for it, as long as it continually holds their interest. If you have 22 pages worth of exciting content, then post the chapter as it is. If you only have 5 pages worth, shorten the chapter. Same with the prologue.

In my experience, readers like to be hooked first, explained to later. Never the opposite.

Hope that helps.

#5 Feb 27th, 9:50am
Kurogane Black Ninja
Dice Darwin is right actually. It doesn't matter the length (though I tend to find a paragraph chapter hardly enough to get me interested) If you can manage to get a reader hooked and pull them in to the story then they will more then likely give you plenty of chance.

Also your presentation should be well also. Readers will usually pick a nicely formatted and well-written story over one that looks like what Melissa Norvell calls 'glorified role plays' with dialouge after dialouge he said she said stuff.

~Kurogane

#6 Feb 29th, 8:23am

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