new page! :D

-Lefty

Okay, so we will incorporate this idea for both Multi Depth and EF right? Just want to make things clear before I go changing things.

Okay, so we will incorporate this idea for both Multi Depth and EF right? Just want to make things clear before I go changing things.

Could you clarify which ideas these are?

i suggest threads dedicated to music and politics.

@Lefty

I still want my question answered in second post on this page

@Rassy

What does this have to do with reviews? O.o

nothing, but you told me to bring my suggestions here.

Indeed I did.

But we add suggested topics only if they are relevant to our "area" somehow (or if you can talk us into it any other way?). And music and politics doesn't really have to do with the things RG is about.

I do recommend the other top forums of General. I think they have these kind of threads.

Okay, so we will incorporate this idea for both Multi Depth and EF right? Just want to make things clear before I go changing things.

yes! i think... well, it would make sense, since i think that this kind of thing can happen on EF, too... it just hasn't yet. :) better be safe than sorry.

-Lefty

oh, and the suggestion is:

1 chapter with 4000 words or more: Max request - 4 chapters

More than 1 chapter with 4000 words or more: Max request - 3 chapters

-Lefty

If y'all think it wil help flow, then I'm all for it.

Rule of max 4,000 words per chapter has been enforced as Rule 17.

It has been added to the first post in both Multi, as well as a special notice post at the end of both topics.

@Lefty - alert me if you think there should be any changes in the rule/posts (even if only that there is a spelling mistake or something) :P

@Onar - stop spamming! It has already been decided. If you are pro or again doesn't matter now. I don't care how much you want your name on every last post, this is getting annoying -.-''

@RM Sug

Should I prolong the review-the-winners deadline or something? I'm a bit alarmed at how unresponsive people have been for this round

instead of prolonging it, add something in the rules that says you can REQUEST for an extension... (if life is being difficult or something and you don't have enough time.) if you give them more time to review, it'll just encourage procrastination, and those people who don't intend to review won't do it anyway. (gee, this is so pessimistic sounding... ^_^;;)

and i think that after one PM from each of us, we shouldn't remind them anymore. i mean... after two reminders, if they're not going to do it, they're just not going to do it.

maybe we should figure out WHY people don't want to give out prize reviews? because it's not like they FORGET... (we remind them enough...)

oh, also, are we going to make it so that people can't register until the week of the RM, or something like that? so that people don't forget that it's happening? O.o?

-Lefty

oh, also, are we going to make it so that people can't register until the week of the RM, or something like that? so that people don't forget that it's happening? O.o?

Yeah, I think I will do something like that. This RM was disastrous. It's better with a few motivated people than a bunch of non-committed people.

People can already request for extension though...but its not a rule. I guess I can make it a rule, since I allow it either way.

I too want to know why people don't want to review. It's not THAT hard or time consuming :/ And if RL is too much they can just PM and say they want more time. I'd ask them all meself but no one is responding haha.

Edit: Rule has been added. Its the newest one

@Multi Idea: I think that word count should directly influence the number of chaps you request. If you have 5 chaps at under 4000 words total, you should be able to request all 5 chaps... (Or something like that....)

That doesn't seem fair...because we're rewarding shorter chapters, I think the idea as it stands is practical for upping the activity...

It's actually quite fair. Think about it. If someone writes something that short, why wouldn't you read/review it all? And if they already gave a review for something longer, why shouldn't they be entitled to a review for their works?

The discussion of all the word counts for chapters is kind of pointless to me, because... if I request that you read something ridiculously huge, and you look at it and see that it is ridiculously huge, then... don't do it. o.O If you're thinking "I don't want to read your 20,000 word story just to get a review for my measely 2,000 word story" then... don't. Wait for someone else to do it and then review theirs. Nobody says you HAVE TO. It's completely fair because you don't have to do it if you don't want to, haha.

-Jesse

Re: I too want to know why people don't want to review.

Everyone's ridiculously busy at this time of year. Finals and all that. So it may just be that they don't have time...

@Onar's sug

No, Onar. The whole issue of word count isn't a thing to be on focus in the RGs. Only reason we implemented the 4000 wordcount is because few are willing to do 4 or more chapters of that. In normal RGs we dont focus on word count at all. In Multi we do only because of circumstances. Your idea has nothing to do with circumstances. And like TT said, it'd be rewarding for short chapters, which we don't want to do. Also, giving two reviews to get 5? No I dont think so. It is as it was before: You can NEVER request more reviews than you gave. If you reviewed 5 chapters? Okay fine, request 5 chapters. But dont go thinking you should be entitled to request for more than you give :/

RGs main focus is the reviews, not the wordcount.

I reject.

Also Re: I too want to know why people don't want to review.

I know it's stupid but I didn't want to read Clap-Trap's stuff at night because it's all ridiculously creepy and I kept only finding time to do it at night. :(

-Jesse

Yo, Frac and Lefty, I gots a question that could possible be used on a poll (I have others as well....) and they are quite insane and unnessicary (sp) so I completely understand if you object to using them:

2). You are going to science class, and suddenly a classmate walks up to you, a stricken expression imbedded on his/ her face. “ We have an exam today,” he/ she says, you frown, knowing that instead of paying attention in class you have been searching for Chinese Leprechauns in your clothing and bags and have no idea what the test is even on. Before crossing the threshold of the room you decide that you are going to cut class. So, how do you accomplish this?

A). You tell the teacher. “ I tasted human flesh over the weekend, and am in danger of attacking and eating my class mates. Could I escape to the guidance office and get an application for the emporium of hopeless cannibalistic addictions.”

B). You go into the class room and spot an ugly brute sitting in the back of the room. You put on a huge smile and run up and hug him, exclaiming how much you are in love with him ( it doesn’t matter if you are a girl OR a guy). The brute breaks your jaw and twists your arm out it’s socket.

You don’t have to take the test for a LONG time.

C). You go up to the teachers desk and throw his computer on the floor and start jumping on it, singing the sesame street theme song and pouring an enormous amount of blue-jay blood down the your pants.

D). You sit on your desk with your knees pulled to your chest, mumbling incoherently to yourself. When anyone asks you what’s wrong you twist your head and look at them without blinking and yell “ Your Mom!” You are escorted out by the police.

OMFG that is hilarious and just the kind of material I want for polls! :D You are hired!!! ...wait Im not hiring O.o Well, it is ACCEPTED! :D

This is just as offensive as lefty's new avatar

Unfortunately, the poll question seem to have a sort of character limit, so I will have to use the low-fat version

:O my avatar IS NOT offensive!!!!

anyway. very... uh... INTERESTING poll question. XD we should have psychoanalysis to go with each answer. :)

-Lefty

:O my avatar IS NOT offensive!!!!

That's right, it's controversial....

Formality:

Suggestion to include in the RM registration requirement to have them(people that register) state in the post that they are committed to reviewing the winners.

I am FOR

i am also FOR. :)

i think that decides it. XD

-Lefty

Suggestion will now be made reality. can be changed if major opposition occur.

Suggestion:

Everyone from rg comes to the wedding of OnarXCake [aka, Jelly]............

:)

@Suggestion/Question-thingie about Recommended Reading Thread

I think we need to decide whether or not to include manga in the recommended reading thread. As it is now, there is nothing indicating they should be allowed, but nothing that says they shouldn't, either. I just want this cleared up, that's all.

Manga is a visual medium, therefore, it does not qualify as "reading" material. Simple as that. As such, I feel that Anime/manga discussions outside OT shouldn't be part of the RG.

I agree that manga is not really reading material and should not be a part of the discussion in the rec reading thread. That was certainly not the intention when it was made, this I know.

I disagree with your second comment about RG hosting (at least this is what I interpreted it as) an anime/manga thread. RG is about reading and reviewing, and anime and manga has to do with neither. It is all welcomed to be brought up in the off topic, though. Also, there is a manga forum on this site. They must have plenty of that.

uh... yeah, i guess manga isn't considered "reading." considering that this is a WRITING site, i think we should be focusing on WRITING.

so should i put that into the recommended reading thread? that manga/anime isn't considered "reading" and therefore cannot be recommended?

if, however, a manga/anime is based off of some real writing (ie... manga shakespeare or howl's moving castle) it is open for recommendation. :)

-Lefty

Seems pretty unanimous so far. Lets await further replies and get some more replies before we make a decision (and see the side of the story from a pro-manga rec person).

@Sug regarding banning

As we banned Otseis Ragnarok, yet have no timeline for it, we are here to discuss how we will deal with the time limit for bannishment due to disobediance of moderators

(excuse my sloppy writing. I am tired)

PLEASE REPLY TO ABOVE SUG TOO!

You had thought maybe a month.....[or so you suggested in questions topic] I think.....[yes yes i am biased we all know it] that one to two months is sufficient.........I will give him eticquette training..........then we shall prove to you that he is worthy of being reinstated as a member.............

yes - maybe we need something to confirm that the banned person will be on good behavior when he/she comes back. we give them until they can prove it to us in some way or another.

and uh... if after that they step out of line again... then they're banned indefinitely.

-Lefty

I think 1 month would be the barest minimum I could ever accept, but I of course want a longer punishment. Minimum is not really enough for me, and I don't think he can change in tow months since he kept blabbering about "problems with authority".

But also, this is to establish a general rule and not just for Onar, but to fit this type of case all around.

and uh... if after that they step out of line again... then they're banned indefinitely.

I like the sound of that. Seriously annoying to have to hound after people

How shall they prove themselves then? It has to be through you for I ban everyone and they cant get in contact with me due to it

I second Lefty's motion!

[Am I allowed to do that? If not, well then forget what I said, but I still agree that her idea is marvelous.]

Lets give out time frames everyone can take a stand on:

1-2 months

3-4 months

4-5 months

6-7 months

8-9 months

10-11 months

An effing year

Indefinitely

okay, this might be weird... but how about this...

we ban them until they become the next rank of person (newbie, apprentice, camper... whatever the order is) the reason why i say this is because newbies might just be new to the site and don't know all the rules. people who have been on here longer should know better, so their punishment is longer. then, after the time period has elapsed, they have to prove that they can come back and not cause trouble by PMing me with a reflection on their behavior and what they should do in the future.

if, after we accept them back, their behavior is unsatisfactory, we ban them indefinitely.

-Lefty

I understand where you are coming from FRAC, but I do sincerely think I can get him to behave within that time span.

[I know you are trying to make a general set of rules but I am just babbling ideas that come into my head about the current situation.]

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Oh and a random thought I just had about any other future problems with members having behavioral issues. I would be glad to counsel them as well. [Just a thought, doesn't have to grow from there. Just thought I'd throw it out there for you.]

Sounds reasonable, I guess. But what if they are the highest rank and cant get any higher?

Lefty is so smart! I think her idea has some worth to it. [I know I am not a mod so I don't get overall say in the matter. Just thought I'd try to be of help by posting my opinions.]

I understand where you are coming from FRAC, but I do sincerely think I can get him to behave within that time span.

You may do whatever "counselling" you want with him during his banned period, but your judgment of it will mean nothing to me for you are incredibly biased and I cannot expect you to be objective about it.

a year is the max, i think. a year is a pretty long time. :)

-Lefty

frac and i will be the judges of behavior. the reflection/apology/whatever you want to call it will be sent to me, and i will forward it to frac.

-Lefty

So the fanatic gets a 1 year repentance?

I think it should be the banned person taking contact with US (and them remembering the dates and such) rather than reversed roles..for we have better things to do

I know that I am extremely biased, but I will do my very bestest not to be in this case.

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