Problems/Questions about The RG - The Review Game Forum

Topic: Problems/Questions about The RG

Here goes any of your problems and/or questions about the Review Game that you feel weren't made clear in the "Read This First!" post.

(And RG is short for Review Game)

Naturally, questions about The Review Marathon and other topics goes here to, as they belong to the forum The Review Game.

#1 Nov 11th 2007, 10:19am . Edited Mar 20th, 9:19am

Terrance Riverdarb

Okay, I know I seriously should have asked this before the forum was moved, but I didn't think of it. What if, for the easy fix, I can't think of anything I do/don't like? Would I be allowed to post two of the other instead?

#2 Nov 11th 2007, 11:23am

Imalefty

yes - four of something you did/didn't seems like an equal exchange for two you liked and two you didn't like...

but if you say four things you didn't like, just make sure it doesn't sound like a flame... ^_^;;

-Lefty

#3 Nov 11th 2007, 11:46am

Yes, I second Lefty's notion! But you should try really hard to come up with at least ONE thing of the liked/didn't like :P The four one is the last way out! ^^

#4 Nov 11th 2007, 11:54am

I have a problem concerning the Review Marathon!!

I wanna participate, I really, really do! But I don't want to win it! ;_; Can I participate, but if I accidentally win, the person that comes second takes my spot? We could blame it on me having to do it for PR-related matters or something :P (me being boss and all...)

Pwease? With a cherry on top? *puppy eyes*

#5 Jan 25th, 3:10am

Esther Jade

I just wanted to know, for the review marathon, how do we make links to the forum?

#6 Jan 25th, 8:21am

Well, either you just copy and paste the link on your profile. Though, to make something clickable, here are the instructions (I'll add it to the Review Marathon post afterwards):

0. Open your profile editor ("Log in" - "Profile")

1. Write the word that you want to be clickable. In my profile, I used Review Marathon.

2. Select those two words

3. Click the last icon on your editor's menu bar. It is named "Insert/Edit a hyperlink"

4. Copy the adress for the forum topic in where the "Adress" goes. On the line under, write "Review Marathon"

5. Click Ok

6. Click "Save changes"

Now there is a hyperlink on your profile, aka clickable words.

#7 Jan 25th, 8:41am

Okay, now that I read the proper thing.

If you want to solve it, according to me, winners have their say. You do what you like with the prize as long as you don't wreck it in some weird way. That's that.

#8 Jan 25th, 1:28pm

Well, doing what I want with it sounds a tad too extreme. That way, I could give it away to some other participant, which would be unfair to the other participants....

Hmm... If one gives it away, it will be given away to a non-participant. Sounding fair? And if you don't give it away, and dont want it, the runner-up gets it!

Good? Bad? Digi-evolve?

#9 Jan 25th, 1:32pm

KnittingKneedle

I think it should be passed onto the runner up...

What makes you think you're gonna win anyway *shifts into annoying super competetive mode*

That thare be fightin' talk Frac!

#10 Jan 25th, 1:44pm

Oh please, hun. I KNOW I will win without even trying. Such are my l33t skills.

On a serious note, though, I want this issue settled just in case.

And okay. To the runner-up.

Anyone disagree?

No?

Can I register now? :D *excited*

#11 Jan 25th, 1:54pm

Imalefty

go right ahead and register. if you win... uh... we'll just acknowledge this request and pass it on to the second place winner. XD the review marathon should be more about spreading the review love (and ADVERTISING!) than winning the prize. :)

-Lefty

#12 Jan 25th, 4:25pm

Yay! Thanks! Beucase that is what I wanna do! Spread the love (and ADVERTISE!)!

Yaaay!

#13 Jan 25th, 4:36pm

Okay. I'll answer the problem thing here then. Even if they know it was for the marathon, we still reviewed according to easy fix rules anyway. They get an decent-ish review. There's a lot of people out there that review for - ??? that's the point - no clue. Maybe to tell people "I liked yours now read mine". And does it make a difference without the tag?

#14 Jan 26th, 3:32am

What concon is referring to is the now deleted message in the Review Marathon that Detox made:

Wouldn't telling the person you reviewed that you are participating in the Review Marathon...just give them the idea that it was the only reason you bothered clicking on their story in the first place?

And yes: we basically ARE only reviewing them for the Review Marathon. This is about quantity and spreading the review love, and getting people engaged in that. Like concon said, they will get decent reviews, too, so I don't see any difference.

I mean, we would still only review them for the sake of the Review Marathon, with or without the advertisement. But having it with benefits more, as more people get to know it, so next time, we can have a bunch more participants to spread the review love.

#15 Jan 26th, 3:36am

I think it makes a difference because some people take that as an insult... such as:

"Wow you wouldn't have bothered reading it had you not been in the marathon."

edit: took awhile to try to word what I wanted to say (didn't get it all)... was replying to concerto's post...

#16 Jan 26th, 3:45am . Edited Jan 26th, 3:46am

Personally I believe by chance I would have read it anyway or then by chance I might not. More like if I review so much in marathon, I'll review less later. It just balances out. It's sort of like playing games the whole day or playing a bit each day.

But as to the tag, I just have no opinion - actually we did that for review revolution. Maybe we shouldn't say marathon - something that sounds less "insulting". And, well Narc left again, never continued the C2 thing. Oh well.

#17 Jan 26th, 3:47am

I don't particularly care how sensitive people are. Getting insulted just of something like that? They are given good reviews, acknowledging both a good and a bad side of their story. What is the problem?

You forget that the main purpose of this is to have fun and spread the review love. And I see nothing wrong with how it is executed. We advertise it in the review so that they hopefully will join in too some other day.

We have 8 participants now. These 8 will probably have a 10 point average each AT LEAST. This means 80 reviews from the Review Marathon on Sunday. Reviews that are decent, too.

I see no problem.

#18 Jan 26th, 3:49am

It's not about sensitivity really...

I can't really explain what I mean.

#19 Jan 26th, 3:51am

Then how are we supposed to understand your point?

@concon- Less insulting? It is CALLED the Review Marathon. I will not change the name just because someone takes offense it. It's mad! We are GIVING AWAY reviews.

What is wrong? Insulting? Really? Isn't it just like getting a surprise? "Hey person! I CHOSE to review you! Out of a whole bunch of writers on this site, I chose YOU!"

No one would review a story they wouldn't be half interested in anyway! I won't go to the "Kids" section just because its the Review Marathon. Like concon said, it'll balance out too.

#20 Jan 26th, 3:53am . Edited Jan 26th, 3:54am

Perhaps you're saying it's too explicit? Like having to say if you want to join follow the link and this from the review marathon, etc is a bit hectic and will get to people's nerves?

@Frac - "Person I choose you" - reminds me of Pokemon from years back.

#21 Jan 26th, 3:54am

People can word their "ad" however they want. Freedom of speech or whatever it is called amongst them yankers...

But do you have a suggestion, concon, as to what is "not insulting"?

"Heya, I'm from the Review Marathon (link in profile), and I just wanted to say that your story" blablabla

How is that offensive?

#22 Jan 26th, 3:58am

Now that you started Frac, can you give me (and everyone) and example (since I don't think it explicitly stated in the rules) of what the review should look like.

Probably:

TAGLINE

POINT 1 - ...

POINT 2 - ...

Perhaps you could create a standard way of the ad, so it's all the same, no insults and arguments.

#23 Jan 26th, 4:00am

The internet is not a country.

But anyway...It also reminds me of those random people who read something (or don't even) and give a generic review while throwing in a "you should read my story insertnamehere" at the end.

#24 Jan 26th, 4:02am

Rule 8 is regarding advertisement. There are two requirements: Mention the Review Marathon, and have a link to it in the profile. Not a link to the Review Game, unless you mention it in the review.

And I don't know really how to make a tagline to fit all. Some might want to start with mentioning the Review Marathon, some might want to end the review mentioning it.

I really think saying something like "blabla Review Marathon (link on my profile)" is enough. Examples:

"It's the day of the Review Marathon! Woot! (link in profile)"

"Coming at you from the Review Marathon (link in profile)!"

"- Frac, from the Review Marathon (link in profile)"

#25 Jan 26th, 4:06am

@Detox - that's self promotion to begin with. It's like making money and helping others for free.

@Frac - Detox made a good point though. If we had to check for quantity - we need to also check for validity - in the sense if all or like high number of reviews someone does is just generic - then doesn't count. To the point, might even have to check relevance to story. Or else, the number would possibly just be about limit that FP sets - something like 1 per 3 minutes including copy and paste? It just means click and paste the predefined lines.

#26 Jan 26th, 4:06am

hiro0911

Thanks for replying to my inquiry.

But I have another question - -

If a story you will review has, let's say, 20 chapters - and you give each chapter of a single story a review, will that count as 20 points? Or the count will be 1 review PER STORY?

#27 Jan 26th, 4:09am

Review Marathon Event - refer to link in profile. (It's fully objective there) - saving this for tomorrow, copying and pasting that is legal.

@hiro - it's 1 per chapter - should say 1 per entry anyway. That means you have to read all the 20 and then review them as per rules, meaning same thing. I don't think it makes it easier or harder.

#28 Jan 26th, 4:11am

Me and the other examinators will look through the reviews. Copy and paste will not count.

I'll better go and add that to the first post.

@Detox - Those people are fishing for reviews themselves. Aka; a selfish purpose. We are fishing for spreading the review love. A collective purpose.

Obviously you don't agree with this either way, and I don't agree with you, so...yeah. I think this is helping beginner authors, you think it insults them. We can't really get anywhere past this point.

So:

Tell us WHAT it is you wish to create with this argument so we can discuss that instead.

#29 Jan 26th, 4:11am

@Hiro -

Points are per REVIEW, not story, see rule 3

#30 Jan 26th, 4:12am

I'm not arguing. If it seems like I am...that's really not intentional at all.

#31 Jan 26th, 4:16am

Yes, but that doesn't matter. What is your purpose of mentioning this? What is it you want changed?

#32 Jan 26th, 4:18am

hiro0911

Thanks again for replying... but I have another question (yeah yeah, I'm sorry...)

So you can't review the story of other participants?

I could review anyone in the whole FP website? Not necessarily those active in this forum, am I right?

(sorry again for asking too many questions. this is kinda exciting coz I'm in a review mode)

*I apologize for my post in the other forum. I accidentally placed my inquiry there (I have multiple tabs opened in Internet Explorer and I clicked on the wrong one*

#33 Jan 26th, 4:26am

Promoting anything in a review is annoying.

#34 Jan 26th, 4:27am

It's okay, hiro. We already have Detox make the same mistake earlier :P

I answered:

But no, you can't review the registered participants. But all else: Free game. Even those that hang at this place, but haven't registered

and concon answered:

Anyone you can find that's not 'participant' as of the list.

(these messages will now be deleted, that is why I am quoting)

To simplyfy: Everyone on this site can be reviewed, except the participants of the Review Marathon. And yourself, of course (since you are a participant). :P

#35 Jan 26th, 4:28am . Edited Jan 26th, 4:35am

Promoting anything in a review is annoying.

Which is why the ad is to be small. I have now added that on the first post.

I am afraid we cannot totally delete that requirement, though. It is the safest way to assure others know about this as this is new and we are starting out.

If we get nasty reactions, I will most assuredly reconsider, though. But at the moment, no one has been negative about it but you, so this is why I am not inclined to take it away (majority versus minority and all)

#36 Jan 26th, 4:31am

Here's another thought - if he/she thinks it's annoying, then we can officially count Detox out of someone to review for tomorrow. Maybe we should put that up too? Joking.

#37 Jan 26th, 4:33am

Or we review him just to spite him :P

But yeah, Detox, do you wish to be on a Hands-off! list? :P

#38 Jan 26th, 4:34am

It doesn't matter, I only have two things up. One is long and one is in spanish.

#39 Jan 26th, 4:36am

NEW PROBLEM/QUESTION!

What do we do with participants that do not have the link in their profile? Are they disqualified or do we detract points from them, or what?

#40 Jan 26th, 4:40am

That means I'm like 12 hours ahead and that's why I said you can watch.

I put mine up. Well I guess if they don't by the time they start - then prob detract points. If they don't by the time we count, disqualify.

#41 Jan 26th, 4:43am

Good suggestions! :D

Just how many points will be detracted, though? Should count in percentage? Like, 10 per cent? 50?

#42 Jan 26th, 4:46am

15% rounded to the nearest whole number? 50% seems crazy. I just added a link. It wasn't that hard. For people that consider reading the 50 emails since - you better not miss this.

#43 Jan 26th, 4:48am

To all who registered, I wrote to them not to forget to put the link up in a PM.

15? Letse. A person has 10 reviews. 15 % outta ten is... only 1,5 aka 2 reviews gone.

Is this an effective punishment? O.o Only 2 reviews.

#44 Jan 26th, 4:50am

KnittingKneedle

Yeah course it is...every review counts!

#45 Jan 26th, 4:58am

Alright then. 2 (concon and ting tong) versus 1 (Frac).

15% until majority wishes otherwise.

Thanks for your input! :)

#46 Jan 26th, 5:01am

KnittingKneedle

Actually, that's a thought- since concon starts WAY before everyone else, aren't we going to know by how much we have to beat her and make that our target, so by the time she wakes up it will be too late for her to try and get back in the game as she sees people overtake her?

Is that fair?

Bah! That sounded so much more coherent in my head

#47 Jan 26th, 5:18am

Well...Err... Hmm.. I haven't thought about that! :O Too late to change such an important time-zone rule now, though we could discuss this for further Review Marathons!

So. I think, in the future, if someone feels like they are in a disadvantage regarding their time-zone, they could follow another time-zone?

#48 Jan 26th, 5:21am

Narc

I say in the future we make it one timezone, but a longer timespan, say a full weekend. So the post -must- register on one of two dates, no matter where you live.

#49 Jan 26th, 12:40pm