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I h8 review replies...lol they annoy me to .......
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i need more friends. the only person in rl who gives me good and honest reviews in my boyfriend. everyone else just...can't.
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so, is it just me, or can no one you know in real life review correctly? I have a few friends who are fabulous at giving con crit not least of all because they know my style and aims intimately. I'm friends with a lot of writers - poets, novelists, screenwriters - who are all about furthering their writing and as such, know that if they give me good con crit I'll return the favor. Plus I've just formed a poetry collective with a few friends - very handy for getting solid feedback. The only time I give my work to non-writers (my partner for example) is when I'm worried something isn't clear enough. Otherwise, it's just an exercise in futility.
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I know I couldn't because pretty much everyone I know in real life has zero interest in writing...so they would read it, and nod or probably just get bored of it...also I'm terrified of my friends seeing elements of themselves in characters, which always seems to happen unintentionally
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No-one in my real life is good at technical things but my boyfriend (when I can persuade him to read my stuff) is good at spotting plot holes and character problems. He is very picky about what he reads so he's always happy to tell me what he doesn't like. He just gets so stressed out by reading my stuff because he wants to give me detailed feedback that most of the time he doesn't even want to. My mom, before she died, was also really helpful both at technical and plot/character stuff. She'd been a copywriter so she would always print out my stuff and then cover it in red pen. She'd never written fiction so there were lots of things she couldn't help me with but what she did know about she was very helpful with. Plus she was my mom so she would always spend however long it took to read and go over my stuff.
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the sad thing is i have writers in my friend circle and my family. apparently, i had a drunk poet great uncle on my mom's side, my mother used to be a poet, two of my closest girlfriends are writers and another girlfriend of mnie is an avid reader, with an english teacher for a mom. i did, however, spend two weeks at slippery rock u last summer at an arts academy. i took college level writing classes with a bunch of kids my own age, and they were pretty damn good at reviewing. fp can be great and all, but sometimes you get the "OmFG!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!! UR wr11tING RoX!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!! r3v13w miN3 N3x7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" or the typical "yeah, it's good" i think i'm going to force my mother to read my writing and give me an actual review. she already dissed me at the art show... what about english/writing teachers? are they any good, or do they have to follow their school guidelines? i have an old enlgish teacher of mine in my neighborhood, maybe i'll give him a try...
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When I wrote a stories for class, my teacher never really gave me any good reviews. All substantial I've learned is from the internet, haha (in constructing a story/getting tips from reviews, I mean). Maybe because my teacher was bad, I dunno. It was back in 10-11th grade, by the way. With my experience, I wouldn't recommend it. She was just "Ah this is good. But there is a type/odd wording. A-". Not valuable at all. At least not to me since I wanted to improve. The crappiest writing I've ever done got A's and such. Blech.
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I never got any good feedback from my old English teachers, mostly because they didn't know a whole lot about poetry in a way that would help me. University lecturers and tutors on the other hand are much more helpful - I think being in the Creative Arts faculty helps. I find that the best feedback comes from people I know well and who are on a similar level to me, both in terms of proficiency and style. I do like getting "cold" feedback from various people but the best comments I've ever received are from fellow poets.
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My English teacher is really good at giving con-crit. She's not at all afraid to tell you if something really sux. She's quite honest and blunt. To most people, she comes off rude, but it is helpful to me. Otherwise, I only know one person who can review well.......She is a much better writer than I am though....[thats probably why...] she's the one who actually got me started on this site........
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I prefer reviews from people I don't really know well. they provide an objective view to my work. my friends would be too supportive of me, and/or know too much about my story anyway...or, if they did critique me, I'd feel like they were insulting me. from someone I don't know, I can see what a casual reader would think of my story, as, in essence, that's what they are, and I would be less offended at an in-depth critique. I also really like review replies, but I consider myself a sucky reviewer. :[ I'm really tolerant of stories as long as someone has a decent plot and writing style, so I can't really pick out some stuff to help them on. alas. but if I get a review I consider very helpful, I always reply. some people can get confused at what something meant, too, and mentioned it in their review, so I like using that reply to thank them, clarify some things, and tell them what suggestions I'm going to put into action.
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