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Topic: Group 1 Discussion

Well the PMs are screwing so I'm nudging here.

Concon, Dex and Frac - will you play with me?

#1 Feb 15th, 2:22am . Edited by concerto49, Feb 15th, 3:24pm

First, I wanna know who will have which role :P

Cuz I am so not writing it! *snickers at self* What will everyone's role be?

#2 Feb 15th, 4:48am

I merely got curious, had a scene and decided to play. I am not a leader.

#3 Feb 15th, 4:51am

That's okay.

But since I am a leader, I went ahead to the Off topic place to inform them (since you said PM's dont work) They should notice eventually :)

So what genre are we doing that fits everyone? Fantasty and Romance seem to be what is mostly agreed upon.

#4 Feb 15th, 4:58am

Traditional fantasy or 'fantasy'? (where explosives are able and willing)

#5 Feb 15th, 5:01am

I dunno. Neither of you specified in your posts.

Dark fantasy is coolest, though! Mwahahah, evil!

#6 Feb 15th, 5:08am

Dark fantasy? I crave explosions by the way. Something with a litle zing.

#7 Feb 15th, 5:10am

Haha, I can see that you do :P Well, any fantasy can have explosions, and if its a dark fantasy the evil people might be really grim and such and go out and bomb places rather than direct attacking.

Btw, I know nothing of bombs, so you'll have to hook me up with some info, dawg!

#8 Feb 15th, 5:14am

I know nothing of being traditional so you may have to reign me in sometimes. Also my flow sometimes goes to what my best friend calls 'speaking in code'.

#9 Feb 15th, 5:16am

Does this mean you do or don't know about bombs? O_o

Hey, can we use this forum as our main planning place? I mean, it is pretty convenient! Everyone in the group can see it here, then. Easy access.

Okay, so question:

What will you absolutely NOT have in this story, if it will be a fantasy romance with explosions? :P

#10 Feb 15th, 5:25am

I know how to write a bomb scene, I stay vague on the specifics of explosions. See the later chapters of psycho as a reference.

explosions and romance are manditory. Everything else is random.

#11 Feb 15th, 5:33am

Now I have to night... see you soon.

#12 Feb 15th, 5:35am

So then, there is nothing you won't do? Like, rape, or something (in the story, I mean!).

This explosives thing has given me ideas. :P Albeit they are crazy, but hey, good start!

#13 Feb 15th, 5:43am

Btw, if a gay male character can be squeezed into the story, it would be puuuuurfectly fine by me :3

Hey guys, we need a group name! :D

#14 Feb 15th, 5:55am . Edited Feb 15th, 6:55am

Never saw this - never thought you guys would use my forum to discuss, but okay that's an idea, I'll pin all the main topics and so people can create their topics to discuss if they want. That way I can increase post count. If this is last in the forums, it'll never be found.

Raping is way cool - I mean as a story scene, because it's so high.

Maybe it's because we won't do it in life - so good fantasy.

Fantasy, romance. If I had too, there's one thing I haven't really done - furustic fantasy - like all the shiny stuff. Dex can write the descriptions :p - or Frac you could too. I gave up on physical appearances of things.

Yeah waiting for Dex. If you really want some plots, I could break up some of my prototyped projects and give you one. Otherwise it'd probably take me a month to think of something that good again.

PS: Frac - Death Note? Death Note was like a rollercoaster to me - very good then very bad...

#15 Feb 15th, 2:43pm

@about the death note - rollercoaster for me too. Only thing I ended up liking was L, in the end (damn you Kira!!!)

@main topic

post count is good! Mwahhah. As is raping. It is so underused in stories, despite being common! Where's the reality in that? Especially in societies where men are dominant. Maybe one of our bad guys could be a rapist...that...blows people up as a hobby? *laughs*

Futuristic? Shiny? I don't really mind, but I suck with coming up things for the future...hm...I mean, will be run by technology, magic, or both? We should decide such a thing first, otherwise the world building will be super haaaard.

About the descriptions; we could ALL write, really. :P Like, pass around a draft and see where it goes? Of course we would have to do it scene by scene.

EDIT: What if our good guy was a rapist? Or had raped, once? *realizes how stupid it sounds* .Errr...

#16 Feb 15th, 2:53pm . Edited Feb 15th, 2:57pm

Yes the L arc was way cool, then the rest sucked bad. The ending was stupid too - if it was just good versus evil and good won like that - they shouldn't even start from Kira, just contradicted it. Would have been heaps better if Kira won but Ryuk killed him after all. Shows humans are inferior to them too. They have overall ruling.

Well Frac, you can still do the scenes and plot and stuff, as long as we set some tech stuff up and all. Don't really have to be familiar. A story is about making things up. As long as it works.

Yeah maybe we could all try writing and put it together. I think in the end, someone has to rewrite it a little though - like to whole thing to normalize it.

#17 Feb 15th, 3:00pm

Aaah, you are evil. Why do you give ME the writing burden? :o I am a thinker, mostly! I cannot express myself on paper (which my stories ought to prove >.>).

But I think we should think up some basics.

Feral wants explosions.

I want rape in there somewhere, if possible. Preferably some sort of darkness around the main characters.

So what do YOU and, also you dex, want?

#18 Feb 15th, 3:15pm

Hey concon, can you change the title of this thread so it is clear this is a GROUP discussion and outsiders arent really welcome (since we are trying to work things out)?

#19 Feb 15th, 3:18pm

Well I changed it to something for now, until there's a name for it anyway.

Okay, if we have furustic setting, there will be some tech bombing and stuff. That's easy.

I want concert and singer.

No you can still think.

#20 Feb 15th, 3:29pm

*is amused*

Explosions, rape, and singing... Hahah, lets make it into a musical!

Do the rapist sing as he rapes? :o

#21 Feb 15th, 3:38pm

No, no, no.

It should be a female singer - I actually want a dance song - one of those fast, heavy beat things. Pop music.

Now that sounds like a comedy - rapist singing as he rapes... I can't imagine that possible. Would be too concentrated on singing or raping.

Though we could have both - whilst singing a concert, in the background is someone raping someone. LOL this is getting perverted.

#22 Feb 15th, 3:40pm

It is not perverted, it is exploring the possibilities! :D

And the woman could sing while she was being raped. Like her "Help!" and stuff could be in a sing song voice. ANd his "Shut up or I will break your neck" could also be singing...

...I will see Sweeny Todd soon I hope. That is a dark musical. Lets see how they pull it off.

And dance and such? How does one translate that well into fiction? I have never seen that happen (well).

#23 Feb 15th, 3:45pm

Okay, I got it. I didn't like that concept, but it works now, and so I've changed my mind.

We begin with a live concert - a lot of audiences - something like a new young female singer - first concert. Some organization attacks midway and then the leader jumps on stage and the rape happens. Everyone on stage is controlled by the crew and so they have to stay put and watch. It is also broadcasted live on TV. Suddenly somehow everyone freezes except the singer...(as though time has frozen except her)

only thought up to there...

#24 Feb 15th, 3:54pm

...All of this really sounds like we are on crack when we think of this O.o

He rapes her ON the stage? In front of everyone? *laughs*

"Once upon a time, there was our hero, horny and needy. He was at a concert and saw that the woman about to perform was beautiful. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, came a bomb targeting the stage. He jumped at her, and she was grateful.

Then he started to rip off her clothes..."

*still laughing*

#25 Feb 15th, 4:05pm

Hey, since I am in this group, do I go saying on my intro post if I am available or unavailable for hire? I saw it was disccused in the suggestion place

EDIT: Crap, wrong topic -.-'' Delete this, and I will move my question

#26 Feb 15th, 4:06pm . Edited Feb 15th, 4:07pm

I was thinking of this in serious terms.

It's shown live on television - so maybe it's some kind of protest or terrorism act or whatever or to shock the world. You know, it's like people start killing presidents and stuff like that. There's a reason behind it all.

@Suggestion - naturally we never resolved that. It depends on how many people we get. In terms of scalability (i.e. if a lot more turn up - more wise to remove your post and post again if you want to do another project or else that author topic might just have heaps of posts with people that are N/A).

#27 Feb 15th, 4:08pm

Just so we are clear: This NOT going to be a musical, right?

#28 Feb 15th, 4:21pm . Edited Feb 15th, 4:23pm

Protest or terrorism?

If its a protest, and maybe its a charity event in which the girl is singing for? And the peeps dont like what that charity goes for... Or something. It has to have more connection to a goal/ideology/religion whatever than just being a random concert people decide to bomb, thats for sure. So lets create that problem.

The peeps bombing, are they our main villain? Sounds simplistic. How about making them SEEM like a main villie at first?

@I added my status at the end of my post now :)

EDIT: EW, double post! WTF? Sorry! T_T

#29 Feb 15th, 4:22pm . Edited Feb 15th, 4:22pm

They should be the hero more like. We soon learn of why they protest or oppose and begins to see the real reason into things and who are the real bad guys.

Yeah they seem bad at first. They could probably enter the scene with a bomb to scare everyone and what not.

It could be a political issue too. It could be the singer herself - like she could be supporting the government or whatever and acts as their representitive type thing. Forgot the word for it.

#30 Feb 15th, 4:24pm

Hmm...the singer could indeed be such a figure. Then she would not be as innocent. Mwahah. Love it. *dislikes innocent characters, just so you all know*

But going for the "oh but the terrorists are the actual good guys" feels a bit obvious.

...How about a third party, mainpulating both sides, making both victims, and still having an evil dude?

#31 Feb 15th, 4:33pm

Well okay, let's say then that they both aren't bad guys, but simply with a different opinion on the world. Yeah and you could say someone behind the scenes is misleading them and causing all this for their own reasons. So they just fight due to different beliefs.

#32 Feb 15th, 4:36pm

...But that totally detracts from all the evil those guys have done in what they thought to be the name of justice or law or something.

Okay...

Mabbe, we switch who is evil guy? First it is bomber, then it is those bombed, then we see it was all a fake at the end at it was the bombers that were evil after all...

Or something...

#33 Feb 15th, 4:45pm

Maybe the rapist is the good guy, just the rest of his team are bad guys.

#34 Feb 15th, 5:05pm

Rapist being the good guy is nice (but we shouldnt make him into some saint or something. i mean, he IS a rapist!).

sooo..his team...what team is this? are they all at the concert? security guards or somtehing?

#35 Feb 15th, 5:10pm

His team - well he can't have come alone - if he jumped up and just even got near the singer - the guards or the audience, etc would take him down. So must have a team to solve all that.

#36 Feb 15th, 5:11pm

Unless he IS the bodyguards....pretend to be, of course, since he is part some political thing or something....

But anyhow, what is this team about? And those bombers, what are they about?

Maybe...there should be an election in a month or so. That is what creates all this tension.

#37 Feb 15th, 5:15pm

well he can't have come alone - if he jumped up and just even got near the singer

well if they are bombed, maybe he could! :P no one cares about a woman being raped if their own lives are at stake...maybe?

btw, will she be raped, or almost raped?

#38 Feb 15th, 5:19pm

Election? Like everyone is trying to overthrow the government and coming up with their own ways?

Yeah the rapist and bombers could be separate teams with their own intentions.

As to her -

it depends on the backstory we're talking about to see if it's important that it happens.

Yes it could be a bomb sets off and in the confusion that guy jumps up catches her and starts raping.

!! Also what rating then - T or M? Importance since you're going to talk about that stuff head on.

#39 Feb 15th, 5:21pm

Depends on what you want to highlight- the act or the emotion.

#40 Feb 15th, 6:02pm

Dexterity

I think this needs to be M. If we're too vague on rape scene, nobody would get it (me thinks tess of d'urberville...not good)

Interesting idea by the way. I don't have too much to say but that I like what has been suggested so far. The "singing during raping" was a really scary idea...but the more serious explanations afterwards was great.

Sorry for not being around. I think I'm the one in a different time zone, haha. Pacific Standard Time, anybody?

#41 Feb 16th, 9:16am

What time is it for you? I'm like morning? You 12 hours behind?

Yeah though we kind of stopped there so if someone has something to add...

#42 Feb 16th, 2:59pm

Dexterity

currently 6pm for me...

I don't know what to add. Should we start on the backbone and the division of work and perhaps get a sample chapter 1 up?

#43 Feb 16th, 5:57pm

I'm midday here. And I'm good for anything. Think of me as your little grunt.

#44 Feb 16th, 6:17pm

Oh yeah Dex - you're FP time.

#45 Feb 16th, 6:42pm

Well it would be good to get a sample chapter, but we first have to get the concept thing - that government/organization or whatever issue sorted out first or else we might get vague and have to come back and change it.

Yeah definitely should get some roles sorted, and how we should go about doing this and stuff like that.

I'm midday-closer-to-afternoon here.

#46 Feb 16th, 7:01pm

So what characters are we doing?

#47 Feb 16th, 7:12pm

Think was the singer, the rapist, and then some bomber squad...

Dex, you got anything to add? Just you haven't said much.

#48 Feb 16th, 8:02pm

So it's gonna be dark....

#49 Feb 16th, 8:06pm