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Ten ways to spoil dinner
Topic: Future battling tips

Battling in the future is hard. And this forums creator needs help so I decided to post a forum for helping that out.

His story takes place in 2030 he said. That means it does not take place too far off from us. In twent-two years we wouldn't probably have laser weopons or dooms day weopons, excluding nuclear wich we do have. Probably: Weopons we already have will be improved. Maybe weopons carry more ammo. Maybe bullets are more harmful.

So when writing a battle scene. You must see the battle in your mind then describe it. IT's what I would do. And it's worked for me so far.

#1 May 06th, 12:33pm
Azar Shamira Malak

I agree with ten ways to spol dinner with the battle scene part. I listen to music, 300, king arthur, and alot of hard rock. For like hand to hand combat, use yourself. Stand up, and stand in a fighters postion, or the postion of the character that is being under attack. Then think about the next move, and what feels comfrotable, or what feels right.

For guns, you have to remember about the scopes, and what kind. How much they kick, the sound, and how big it is. Proboly the most common setting for a furturistic battle ground would be an urban setting, so that means snipers on high buildings, close combat, surprises, and stealth. Also what about knives, and swords? Sounds corney, but knives would really be handy, espically for silent kills, and surprieses. Sorry my spelling is really bad! But for swords, again use yourself, and a long pole, broom stick for an example. Anyways, slow it down, and go through what might happen.

Reading, and watching alot of books, or movies on fighting would be very helpful. Or even join a group, and ask friends to help re-act some scenes. Ive joined a belegarth group, and it has helped me the differnet stargities, and battle ideas. (belegarth is a medieval fighting group, that we fight with foam swords, sheilds, and other medieval weapons. it hurts trust me!)

have fun and good luck!

#2 Aug 11th, 3:02pm
Life Ain't Perfect

I'd recommend reading anything by Andy MacNab simply because it tells you a lot about how a SAS soldier operates, what he knows and how they act. For tactics etc, I'd watch Saving Private Ryan, Kokoda ('m not sure if that's out on DVD in America) or The Odd Angry Shot. I'm sure that there are lots of other realistic movies, but those are some of the best.

Weapons wise, there's a lot that you can do. I'm a bit of a weapons nut, so here's my opinion on weapons technology in 2030. (Please note that these are just my ideas and are not actually planned weapons. You can use then if you want, though):

F-15 (Australian Designation): An bullpup assault rifle, firing caseless ammunition developed by the LSAT project. It has a 30 round magazine and fires 6.5 x 40 mm caseless ammunition. A round counter has been integrated into the standard scope, which also provides a laser range finder, between 1x and 4x magnification and switches between a digital red dot and AUG style crosshairs, depending on the preferences of the soldier. The F-15 is considered to be highly reliable under a wide range of conditions and weighs just 3.8 kg fully loaded with the electronic scope attached. Without the scope, the weapon weighs about 3 kg, or 3.2 if you choose to use a G-36 style scope arrangement instead (reflex sight and 4x scope mount).

For visual comparisons, imaging a slightly modified Steyr ACR (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as56-e.htm) with the scope from the AICW (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as72-e.htm).

F-15C: A carbine variant of the F-15 with picatinny rails at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions. The electronic scope is rarely seen on these carbines, which are most in use with tank crews and some in use with the SASR.

F-15 GL: Basically, this is a version of the F-15 that has an integral Metal Storm 3GL. It's basically a more modern version of the old AICW and, at 6.8 kg, it's much lighter, about the same as the abandoned XM29. It's heavy and you lack the ability to use the 3GL component as a stand alone weapon, but it is guaranteed to get the job done.

3GL: A grenade launcher from Metal Storm that holds three 40mm grenades. It can be used as a stand alone weapon or attached to a rifle. It is in service with most of the world's militaries, either as the standard grenade launcher or as a stand alone with their special forces.

"The **": A rifle built specifically for Australian Special Forces by Australian Defense Industries. Although its official designation is the "F-23 Battle Rifle", the SASR named this weapon after the fully automatic FN FAL derivative used by the SASR in Vietnam. It works using the constant recoil principal, so recoil is virtually non-existant, which is a good thing seeing as it uses 7.62x55 mm caseless ammunition and is capable of fully automatic fire. Weighing in at 4.2 kg, G-36 style sights included, the weight often goes up to 6.7 kg with the addition of a Metal Storm 3GL. It is so highly reliable, robust and accurate that many other SF have adopted this as their main weapon.

F-14: Basically your stock standard LSAT LMG, not much different to the one featured here: http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2008Intl/Spiegel.pdf

Just as a guide, a soldier carries approximately 15 mags of 6.5x40 (450 rounds), a grenadier carries 11 mags (330 rounds) plus nine grenades, a LMG operator carries 750 rounds of 6.5x40 (4 pouches plus one already on the gun) and a Special Forces soldier carries about 13 mags (390 rounds) with "The **".

Well, there's more ideas that I could and would like to add, but I just don't have the time at the moment. For pistols and SMGs, look at the new 9x21 mm round that is being brought out by the Russians.

#3 Aug 25th, 3:05am

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