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Bitter IronyTopic: What do you like best in a poem? I'm interesting in knowing what readers look for in a poem. Do you like the emotion? How about allusions to myths? Or do you prefer a poem that plays over and over in your head long after you've finished reading it? Personally, I like poems that have a good sound to them. The Garden of Proserpine is an excellent example: the rhyme scheme is just amazing. And I've yet to read a poem that excited me as much on a first read through as Poe's The Bells did. What do you like best in a poem? |
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Isabella22Well I like a poem that I can recite afterword cause it really hit me.I also like poems that people can relate to and place themselves 'as the author' |
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LovesickAuthorI just like the emotion in the poems, so you can get a feel for how the speaker feels and you are empathetic towards them. My poems never rhyme, they just have a strong emotion, usually angst or romance, that people can relate to.| #3 Oct 20th 2006, 11:13am | |
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AgathonPoems that make the reader work are the best in my opinion. I like it when I can read a poem and immediately be struck by something in the poem, but then when I go back to read it I can find so much more. And not just a vague poem, but a poem that is just dense, makes you really work to find a personal meaning. The work can be a reward within itself.| #4 Oct 20th 2006, 11:29am | |
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angel953What do I look for in poetry? I look for something I can relate to. I love to see all the emotion in it. If a poem has both of those but it's either not developed enough or it just seems like a bunch of words put together in a form lokking like a poem, then its a freaking piece of crap and I tell you straight forward that its a piece of crap. |
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Written AestheticsI love symbolism, "stealthy" rhyming, symbolism, and a "WOW" factor in the very end. |
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Aluminum TinkerbellI adore poems with strong emotions, things I can relate to, and a finish that can take my breath away. Unfortunatly, those aren't always easy to come by. O.o I also love metaphors and similies, especially when it's two COMEPLETLY unlike things. ^^| #7 Oct 22nd 2006, 10:41am | |
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Midnight In EdenPoetry that has that spark of originality to it really grabs me. The emotions are important, but the way in which they are portrayed, the language; that's what is most important It's the imagery that really can pull a piece together. |
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Isabella22I love imagery. It's just magical and breathtaking. I hate it though when people use huge words in their poems. I like nice simple words that you can just feel...did that make sense? I don't like the long words that make no sense. |
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Midnight In EdenBut "nice simple words" are often overdone in poetry. I find that large words are so interesting, that they make the piece more intriguing and expand your vocabulary quite a bit. Because just falling back on simple words, you're letting language down.| #10 Oct 24th 2006, 7:56pm . Edited by Bitter Irony, Nov 06th 2006, 8:50am | |
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abrandnewdayYep. I completly agree...larger words make it alot more interesting and set them apart from everyone else's.| #11 Oct 25th 2006, 1:57pm . Edited by Bitter Irony, Nov 06th 2006, 8:51am | |
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Isabella22I'm not saying I don't like large words (I know it sounded like that, lol), it's just when the reader doesn't understand them, and has to go look it up to understand the poetry piece!| #12 Oct 25th 2006, 3:42pm . Edited by Bitter Irony, Nov 06th 2006, 8:51am | |
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I Shot Mel Anne KholiI look for... intentions in a poem. This can lead to lots of dispute, because finding the true intentions of something can be very difficult, or even at times totally impossible. I do enjoy what a poem gives to a reader, but I'm much more interested in what a poet gives to a poem. Today, there's just too much poetry out there with little intent, and too many authors who expect the readers to find poetry in the ambiguous meaningly bantering they publish. Some people regard my views as very unrealistic, and tell me that I should open my mind up a little bit. But, I think it's just as closeminded to tell me that I should ignore all rule, and form in my poetry. That's just not creative to me. If I wanted to say things in that way, I'd write a paragraph, not a stanza. Emotion is important. Intent is important. Sometimes, allusion can be important too. Mythology and other poem referenced can be very affecting on the reader, so I try to use allusions as often as possible. | #13 Oct 27th 2006, 2:01pm | |
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Isabella22You're post struck me, xphaser99x*. I really like it. Thanx for saying that, now when I read poems, I'll start looking for intentions!*I Shot Mel Anne Kholi | #14 Oct 28th 2006, 3:09pm . Edited Dec 02nd 2006, 10:01pm | |
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BragiI've noticed that most people say they like poems that "they can relate to".Besides the fact that this commonly used phrase is grammatically incorrect, where's the fun in reading things that fit nicely within your realm of experience? By reading a poem to which you CAN'T relate, you force your mind to stretch in order to find meaning, and are thusly a better poet for having read it. In my opinion, "I like to read things that I can relate to" translates into, "I don't like to have to think about a poem". | #15 Nov 04th 2006, 2:04pm | |
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Isabella22As though I see your point, I disagree.Finding a poem that you can relate you means different things to different people. You might find comfort in the poem because you're going through the same thing at the time. All different poems can relate to different people, and the can mean different things to those people. Glad for your input though. | #16 Nov 04th 2006, 2:51pm | |
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BragiIdeally, that would be true.However, in every case (and I mean EVERY case) in which the aforementioned phrase is used, the user has been a person who is only interested in reading literature written by or about people from their social dynamic. The most common example is the group of airheads found in every English class who say, "I liked this book because it was like, about teenagers and stuff, and I'm a teenager, so you know, I could like, relate to it." I must admit that the phrase "that I can relate to" might have been misdefined on my part because of its frequent association with people I don't like. Perhaps a better choice of words would be, "that directly relates to me". In that sense, I find that I gain more understanding about my life from reading about people whose experiences are diametrically opposite from mine. I would rather read about a Holocaust survivor or a Civil War hero or a Chinese farmer than about an average teenager going through things that I have already been through. It's just more fun that way. | #17 Nov 05th 2006, 5:53am | |
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Bitter IronyI'm with Bragi on this one, but only by the slightest margin.I like situations I can't relate to (for example, 99.999% of Fantasy and Science Fiction), but I still like to know how the character is feeling. Yes, the "I" or "You" in a poem is still a character, in case that needed clarifying. In poetry, this basically means I like poems about the impossible or the unlikely: Immortality (I have to think about what it must be like to live forever, but I know what it feels like to be bored, or lonely, or relieved), death/dying (I know I'll do it eventually, but I'm not sure what it's like just yet), the return of someone who's been away for a long time. ~Bitter Irony | #18 Nov 05th 2006, 2:03pm | |
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Bitter IronyPeople have probably noticed that I've taken to editing posts. What am I doing there? I'm fixing simple grammar errors. Please, please, please x1,000, double check your posts! Possesives, conjunctions, capitalizing of the letter I...it's beyond belief the number of basic English rules have been thrown out the window on these forums. Mine, at least, will have no such issues! (Cue haughty music in background and sudden change in voice). :-) Just a gentle warning. Yes, this is tongue-in-cheek, but I am serious about grammar errors. It's one of my many eccentricities. Work with it. ~Bitter Irony | #19 Nov 06th 2006, 8:55am | |
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waterwindUps...you are so strict with it, aren't you? Anyway, I am with Agathon. I like a poem that has a good meaning and difficult to understand.| #20 Nov 11th 2006, 6:57am | |
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Endless NightmaresI look for some sort of emotion or beautiful image.| #21 Nov 20th 2006, 6:47am | |
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tofujunkyAnything that tugs my heart, picks my brains, or tickles my bones. I favor rhymes; although, I must acknowledge that free verse could potentially be as euphonic and rhythmic. I'm often impressed with poems that can pack strength, intensity, and clarity in a minimal amount of words. The usage of "large words" are overrated -- not that there's anything wrong with properly utilizing them, but to actually believe that it's necessary is quite frankly, hebetudinous.I have at least one favorite poem. I know this because I could recite it by heart at any given time. Oddly enough, it's not even short. And no, it's not one of my own. Please! I'm not *that* conceited. | #22 Nov 20th 2006, 11:56pm | |
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BragiI made a special trip to dictionary.com to look of hebetudinous. I hope you're happy. I snicker wholeheartedly at the irony of the last post. Well done, Tofujunky. But furthermore, I think it exemplifies one of the problems with using esoteric words in poetry. Ahem, I shall explain. I don't mind having to look up words in order to understand peice of prose; In fact, I like it. I pick up my dictionary, I laugh at the joke, and I learn a new word because of it. With poetry, it's different. Having to look up a word irrecoverably disrupts the flow of the piece. Even having to stop and think about a word that I know but rarely hear, while it doesn't ruin the poem, creates a mental "catch" in the rhythm. It's like running to a steady rhythm and tripping over a rock. | #23 Dec 02nd 2006, 5:23pm | |
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Isabella22That was exactly what I was trying to say! Thanks, Bragi, for actually explaining it...understandably. :D| #24 Dec 02nd 2006, 8:26pm | |
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Persistent Vegetative StateI think for a poem to work really well by itself, it needs to capture a specific feeling or ideal without being too straightforward about it. Take, for example, Keats' The Nightingale, which hardly deals with a bird's song so much as it deals with escapism. Poems that flow easily when read are the most enjoyable--if it can't be read aloud without stumbling or feeling weird, it needs work.I always use Robert Frost's Stopping by the woods on a snowy evening to exemplify what good poetry is. The rhyme and meter is painstakingly done, and even though the poem is extremely depressing to the point of suicidal there isn't any mention of the "oh boohoo the world revolves around me and I want to cut myself" crap. | #25 Apr 18th 2007, 4:58pm | |
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Chris SphinxI like to read poems with a very defined message and a focus that is carried throughout the piece.I don't understand poems that are segmented into different parts, or poems that try to depict a scene as a story would. Very complex words & phrases are also things I look for in a poem. | #26 May 11th 2007, 5:37pm | |
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sincerely disregardI like the flow of a poem and how the words interplay with each other and strong imagery.And this might be going back a bit, but about relatablity... There is a distinct difference between relatable poems and poems people relate to. A writer should make the emotions behind a poem relatable for the readers, but that doesn't mean that it needs to be about the exact same thing that happened to the readers just last week for them to understand where the poem is coming from. Fear and pain and love are universal, but people writing about being afraid their significant other won't like their new shoes that pinch their toes is more or less writing for a select audiences. I think I have an odd sense of what is relatable since I often write about things I can't relate with. I know I know, write what you know and all that conventional wisdom, but I am an observer and a lot of what I write is taken from watching real people and trying to create something that lets me explore what the might be feeling. I think this watcher's mentality is why I generally write poems in third person and use heavy imagery, I am trying to capture someone else's emotions. | #27 Nov 13th 2007, 2:27pm | |
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