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peteygirl
Topic: conformity
I was just wondering what you people think about conformity and conforming. Just trying to share about one of my many topics that i can go on and on about for an hour and a half. First, lets start to talk about clothing conformity. K? Now type!!!
#1 Jan 09th 2007, 3:11pm
bitterlyysweetchoco
Assimiliationism I don't do much with clothing but I try to act "sweet" even though I'm quite crazy and I'm very blunt about things
#2 Jan 16th 2007, 2:00pm
katie killjoy
I just hate conformity. I'm in the "punk scene" and I wear what I want. I wear my striped shirts with my plaid pants, black boots...whatever I want. People should just be free and do what they wish without being ridiculed for their choices.

After all, it is our body and our life. Shouldn't everyone do what they want with it? I just hate it when people make fun of me for who I am. I'm different...so what. They seem different to me. I love myself for who I am and I would rather be hated for it than loved for trying to pretend to be someone who I'm not.

#3 Jan 23rd 2007, 12:20pm
Ife and Twilight.
Frankly, I don't like the idea behind conformity, but I hate proudly proclaimed "non-conformers"; I think it gives people too much hubris to separate themselves from society somehow, and it doesn't give the rest of civilization nearly enough credit; people speak of oppression and hate and nobly doing what they believe in. But the fact of the matter is, most people don't care what you're doing, and the purposefully unique in a totally non unique way is just that: completely non-unique.

In other words, it's a web spun of cliches, and I'll just be the spider with broken legs who dare not ascend it, but undeniably play a part.

All humans are linked. Conformity is relative, but mostly, people are radically the same. Contradictions, tut tut tut. You're not as special as you think you are, and they're not as different from you than you think. I'd rather try to love everyone to make life a little easier.

I'd rather be respected for recognizing all points in the system - I don't care where I fall in it.

#4 Feb 15th 2007, 8:45pm
peteygirl
cool, haha i totally forgot about this thing! haha i started it ok then. i accually try to be different. i was seperated a little bit and then i was just decided to plunge into freezing waters. that's how i feel about it.
#5 Feb 16th 2007, 2:15pm
Ife and Twilight.
I'll be damned if I "try" to be different. I see no reason to be anything other than what you are by nature. If you fit in and you're comfortable with it, great. If you're a little from left field, awesome. The world takes all kinds, and as unambitious as I tend to be, I don't have the energy to try to be anything other than who I am by nature, by nurture - just who I am when I wake up, who I am when I go to sleep. I don't think effort should have to play a part in it.

Albeit, I've been told I'm eccentric, out there, whatever. But I certainly don't aim for it. I try to be real in a surreality made from realism. It's an equation I'd rather not tackle.

Either way, either way.

#6 Feb 18th 2007, 9:20pm
katie killjoy
I just like to be who I am. I like to where what I want. I don't like people who want to be part of my scene because it is the new cool "fad". It bothers me. It seems I can always tell when someone is uncomfortable with themselves. With what they are doing...

Personally, I like being me. I like pretty much everyone. People do what they want with their body and lives. I don't try to be different by being who I am. I just am me. I just don't like people who want to be someone else.

"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

#7 Feb 22nd 2007, 8:33am
peteygirl
ok you just said that the world takes all kind of people! yeah where i live everyone is trying to be the same! so obviously someone needs to be different.
#8 Feb 22nd 2007, 3:40pm
dog problems
Remember: If you're one in a million, there are fifty-nine other people just like you. :]

- Colleen

#9 May 05th 2007, 5:06pm . Edited May 05th 2007, 5:13pm
my poetic lie sense
being able to confrom is a way of life and we are born and raised to conform to society。

yes, there are heaps of people, esp。 teenagers who do not like the idea of conformity as it restricts their individuality。。

but seriously, conformity in our society isnt restricting anyone,and even if it was they would be a good reason why。 you can still conform to a society and be an individual。

you stereotype and label all these subcultures in our society who say ’we‘re non-conformist’

now that dosent work, does it?

conforming is part of socialisation。

i have more to say, but i‘m done。

#10 Jun 12th 2007, 4:05am
Iced Tea Junkie
I hate people who "try" to be different. It makes people like me, who actually are different (and not in a good way) feel more terrible about myself. I don't want to stand out. I want to fit in! Not in the huge, "I wanna be popular' way, but a few friends couldn't hurt. Yet I'm too lazy to alter myself in any way. I'm still the same mean, over-critical person I've always been. A lot of people think I'm shy, but the truth is, I just don't like that many people, because they don't live up to my impossible standards. I guess you could call me a "loner".
#11 Jul 29th 2007, 3:34pm
sugarplumfairie
Conformity is inevitable. Those that think they are not "conforming" to something, whether it be fashion trends or wordly ideas, are actually conforming to the "non-conforming" group. Ya mean?
#12 Aug 10th 2007, 7:36pm
flies in the vasoline
"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

Actually, that's a common saying that's been misattributed to Kurt Cobain.

To be on topic, conformity is inevitable. There's always someone like you. Just do what you want, man.

#13 Aug 24th 2007, 5:38pm
Serom Kim
I think that people who say that I'm in the "punk" scene or any kind of scene and are against conformity contradict themselves. Nonconformists don't associate themselves with a clique, so I refer to my friends and myself as the people in school who don't fit in with anyone else.
#14 Aug 28th 2007, 8:48pm
Lyrical Anatomy
At my school, there's not many stereotypical groups, everyone just gets along. But it really depends on the person. Some people are very arrogant (mostly guys) who would rather see a school of poeple just like them. I have a very small group of friends and we're all very different from eachother. Sometimes, the people who love to get on my nerves, just call me Emo and Goth because I like to dress darkly, and I dye my hair strange colours, also that I listen to Alternative music.

You just really get sick of it after a while, especially if that person doesn't know you. I mean, I don't label anyone else, so why should we be labeld just because we're a bit different.

If I had to label myself, I'd label myself as just "A Person". Trying to conform with "the crowd" is just giving up your true identity. If people only like you for the person you have to pretend to be, they're not worth it.

#15 Aug 29th 2007, 11:05am
sugarplumfairie
What is a nonconformist? Someone who doesn't "associate themeselves with a clique"? Yes, that is true. But do you not think that a nonconformist is, in a sense, a conformist? Let me elaborate. Say that a particular clique is all about "money comes with power". People who agree with this are conforming to the clique and are called conformists. People who do not believe "money comes with power" are *not conforming to the clique and consequently are called "nonconformists". However, one could observe the people who are *not conforming to the clique as *conforming to the nonconformists. As it is, they are conformists to the "nonconforming group labelled nonconformists". Essentially, there is really no such thing as a nonconformist. CONFORMITY IS INEVITABLE! I hope I was clear enough, but this is merely my opinion.
#16 Aug 30th 2007, 1:47am
Amiash
conformity.. for me it is, as natural as fitting in and adapting in the society.

everybody is trying to fit in. that they dont notice that they are losing their uniqueness

people end in "imitating-the-majority of the society" that they almost forget to "fit in"

it is hard to separate both perspective i guess.

fitting in the society maight be hard for some au de contrary so easy for others..

(hope you get my point)

#17 Sep 05th 2007, 4:57pm
Iced Tea Junkie
Nonconformity does exist, but only in the mind. No one else on this planet can ever know what it's like to be you, nor can you ever know what's like to be them. We are all conformists on the outside, but nonconformists on the inside.
#18 Oct 05th 2007, 9:59pm
katie killjoy
I dont think that just because i say im in a certain "scene" means that i'm a conformist.

there is a "scene" for everything. even the people that don't fit it.

it's hard to even put a label on conforming.

bascially it is trying to fit in or find a place in life.

i think the whole 'conforming' thing is based on the reasons you go into that scene.

i went into the punk scene because i loved the music, wanted to learn to play bass, and loved all the fun stuff like local shows etc.

i dont think saying im punk or anything is conforming.

i dooo think it is conforming when you go into the punk scene because it looks cool. you feel dangerous. all the people at the mall stair at you. you feel bad **. its what is the new cool thing to do.

to me that is a conformist.

i hope people get what im saying here.

#19 Nov 13th 2007, 8:41am
Snowy Days
I don't like conforming.And I don't even dress punk,or goth or anything.I just can't stand how everyone's...the same.I don't stand out in a crowd,but once you get to know me,I'm pretty weird.My school is very small,and there's no 'cliks'. We're just a bunch of kids in a school.

Do we really need to express ourselves through what we wear?I think people should just be themselves.I guess in a way,it makes me a hypocrite.I can't go out and say I like certain stuff.What if my friends ditch me?I don't want to be alone.As a culture...we do not want to feel alone.Even the most unfeeling of people would tell you they don't like being lonely.I can understand why people conform.Fitting in is important,especially to my age-group.Maybe it's because there's no real subcultures where I am.You're like us,or you're not.Wow,I'm rambling.

Maybe you see my point?We don't have to dress a certain way...but we do.It's just the need to be in something bigger then ourselves.But.hey,ehat do I know?I'm only a kid.

#20 Dec 07th 2007, 9:18pm
sweetsforthepoor
i happen to believe in non conformity. It seems like everyone at my school is in a clique but me. It's not because I don't want to talk to certain people but because certain people(like everyone) never seem to interest me. it's honestly like being a grain of sand in the snow! as for the clothing thing, i personally hate shopping so my older sis and mother buy and so I happen to have an emo/goth appearance. It doesn't mean that i long to dress this way just that my family thinks that i'm into that kind of stuff since i'm 'antisocial'. that's why i happen to believe that you can't generalize someone based on the way they dress or say that they've 'conformed'. The only people who conform are those who decide they'd rather be some other weirdo.
#21 Dec 16th 2007, 3:41pm
peteygirl
Ok, well, it's been quite a while since i've been on the forum section on fictionpress, so i haven't really read this in a long time. I kind of changed my views a little bit since my first blunt display of opinion. Last year, when I started this topic forum thing, I was in a bit of a rebellion shall we call. Seeing how far I could push myself, and how I would deal with it. So, now that my social experiement is over, I have found 2 things.

1. Who I truly am.

2. A great friend.

I found out that truly I wasn't as extreme as I was perceived. So, I forced myself to act/dress/whatever else, like myself, not acting like something I saw, or wanted to be. I'm very comfortable with who I am now, not as self conscience or deppressed as I was before. So, I do feel like someone who doesn't try to be something other than themselves is quite an anomily. Another thing I found was that with my acting so different than I really was inside, I ended up with problem friends. I couldn't really relate to them, and they got into trouble all the time. My mom started getting worried about me, and it just wasn't good. Now, with me acting true to myself, I found a great friend, who doesn't really care about the groups of friends or anything of the sort. She's her, and I'm very grateful to have someone like that in my life.

--------end of rant------------

#22 Dec 16th 2007, 5:38pm
Avery-102
There really is no such thing as conformity at my school. Well everyone is different and there might be a couple of cliques but everyone's themselves. I go to an arts school and it's really different and I love it. I wear whatever the hell I want and say whatever the hell I want. All my friends look and act differently but we still manage to be great friends. If you have a certain style and other people happen to dress that way or act that way it's cool. As long as your not changing your self to fit in then who cares.
#23 Jan 05th, 1:33pm
Sick Boy
A nonconformist is simply someone who doesn't modify or adapt their attitudes and behaviors to appeal to a group or cultural norm. Now, you could discuss nonconformity in a much broader sense, in which case a nonconformist is anyone who doesn't identify themselves as belonging to a subculture of the mainstream (basically anyone you'd look at and consider "normal"). But that brings up another issue entirely, as even if you look past mainstream culture there still exists a variety of different subcultures (stoners, neo-hippies, goths, punks, etc. etc.) which can carry with them a slightly more complex version of conformity. So, an opinion on this matter is mainly dependent on whether you view the issue of noncomformity as belonging to a group or an idividual.
#24 Feb 03rd, 1:26am
chrisseldo

To think a bit outside the box... Everyone that says that they do not conform are conforming by saying that. Many people believe that it's "individual" or "unique" to not conform. Everyone has to conform somehow. Its basic humanity. In saying that, everyone is also different, or "unconforming".

#25 Jun 05th, 4:21pm

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