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Creeping Collarbones

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6/26/2010 #1
waitingforwhatever

Several people have reviewed Tale of Yinimavia and they all seem to have different opinions about the main character. Some have spotted inconsistencies, some have said she's relate able, some have implied that she's kind of a hallow character (this one worries me the most), and my most recent reviewer says she's a strong character. I get a bit confused because I can't tell anymore how I really am portraying Mona. Do you think I'm worrying too much about what people think of her? And if so, how do I stop worrying? I just want people to think she's awesome just like I do (though I realize I can't make everybody happy).

6/28/2010 #2
fictionullFreaK

Yeah, that sounds confusing. If you want, I can go check it out and give you some feedback. I think I'm good with characters.

6/28/2010 #3
waitingforwhatever

If you could do that, I'd be so thankful to you!! xD

6/28/2010 #4
fictionullFreaK

All right! That shall be my mission for this evening. :)

6/28/2010 #5
TymCon

Wfw the really annoying problem with that is that everybodys diffrent. Some people think your character is shallow, but who knows maybe she is. While other people would say she's a strong, deep character becuase they think she is. Know what I mean?

I'd say trie to write a full 14 page in bullet points about your character. It doesn't have to be even goo.d Liek clothes, past events, anger, humour e.t.c.

6/28/2010 #6
waitingforwhatever

Thanks for the tip, that sounds like a really good idea.

Another thing I've found that works sometimes is to just free-write from your character's point of view when you know him/her a bit more. It does get annoying--I don't see how so many different opinions can come about about one character.

6/28/2010 #7
fictionullFreaK

@Tym: That's very true. Opinions usually conflict, but maybe that means the character has a few conflicting aspects. Or maybe one person misunderstands the character.

@WFW: Free-writing has worked for me. I'll sometimes even write a story that shows what would have happened if something had gone differently in the original story. Stuff like that can really flesh out the character.

6/28/2010 #8
fictionullFreaK

@WFW: Alright, I checked it out. Mona seems like a fairly rounded-out character to me. Dreamers tend to get lost in their thoughts, and that could make them seem shallow. I can see the reason for her disinterest in most people; she prefers the company of her own musings. At least, those are my interpretations. Also, I have a hunch that Blue Jay might be Jonathan, somehow...

It's an interesting story. :)

6/28/2010 #9
Creeping Collarbones

The enemy: Writer's Block.

How the hell do you over come it?!?!?!?!?!?

(:

7/02/2010 #10
waitingforwhatever

Just freewrite. Your mind might be a complete blank at first. Just think of something--like, skyscraper, nature, kitty--and write down all the things that come to mind when you think of this word. Don't put yourself down if what you write doesn't make any sense. Look on the bright side: at least you're trying.

7/02/2010 #11
Creeping Collarbones

Mmmkay. Thanks. Ill try.

7/02/2010 #12
fictionullFreaK

Alas, I require your sage advice...

My writing is getting increasingly dull. It reads more like a detailed plot outline than an actual story. There's no color or emotion to it, and it sounds forced.

7/02/2010 #13
Creeping Collarbones

Keep a notebook full of descriprions you think of. Go for a walk, go stalking (people watching).

I don't know if that helps. Lol.

Side note: When I get to go to B&N, I'm panning on getting a pretty notebook from there and carrying it EVERYWHERE I go. And I'll become the observant little beyotch and wite down descriptions and shiz and all those one liners I'm always thinking of. And use it all for future reference. I WISH PEOPLE COULD FLY!!

That is all. (:

7/02/2010 #14
fictionullFreaK

All of that was helpful! And I love stalking--ahem, people watching. I once saw an elderly guy with hair like Phil Specter's mugshot. He was wearing an orange tank-top and white cargo pants. And this was only last year.

Ugh, I am so dense. B&N is Barnes and Noble, right? I almost had to ask what it stood for.

7/02/2010 #15
Creeping Collarbones

Barnes and Noble. Yurpity yurp yurp. I could live in that place.

I'm glad that was helpful.

7/02/2010 #16
waitingforwhatever

That's something I might just try, too. Thanks, CC!

7/02/2010 #17
TymCon

(Bursts into room)

Yeah i did the notebook descriptive thing once like a week ago. It was awesome.

Lol i was whit my freinds and when they were talking i started to write. It was kind of funny how paranoid they looked:P

7/03/2010 #18
fictionullFreaK

Haha, I've done that before. I've also gotten that freaked-out question of, "You're not putting this on FictionPress, are you?"

7/03/2010 #19
Creeping Collarbones

@Tymcon: That's funny. What did they say?

Zyg: Haha! I love that. I've never done that before. My friends know I read stuff on FP, but they don't know I have an account.

7/03/2010 #20
fictionullFreaK

Another question: What is the difference between angst, and real anger and sorrow? And how do you avoid writing angst?

7/06/2010 #21
Creeping Collarbones

I have a question to your question! What really is angst in writing? the definition of angst is like apprehension and anxiety. It seems likepeople put angst and emo together. Maybe, I'm not making any sense.

Yay for not being helpful!

Side note: I totally tried to spell definition like definision.... ?!?!?!

7/06/2010 #22
fictionullFreaK

Haha, sometimes I'm tempted to just leave my mistakes because they're so weird and far from what I was trying to write.

Anyway, I think angst is when someone has problems in their life, and they depressed and whiny-but-stoic, and brood a lot. Creates a strange mixture of distant but needy...did that make any sense?

7/06/2010 #23
Creeping Collarbones

Yeah. Angst: The new EMO.

Try to have a 3 dimensional character. Try to avoid emo-mazingness. I guess, don't make them too depressed or overdo and emotion. Put yourself in the characters shoes and imagine what you'd feel.

7/06/2010 #24
fictionullFreaK

Okay, thanks. Do you think it's okay to have a character so deep into depression that he becomes pliable and doesn't take care of himself properly? Like hardly eats and has to have the neighbors remind him to pay the bills?

7/06/2010 #25
Creeping Collarbones

Yeah. If it's plausible.

Is this for a fic you're working on? It sounds interesting.

7/06/2010 #26
fictionullFreaK

Actually, it is. I'm planning kind of a mystery-thriller about some kidnapping, trapping, etc. I just wanted to make sure he didn't sound too unrealistic.

7/06/2010 #27
TymCon

There's actually a pretty easy way to avoid angst. Just don't have your character dwelling on it. Yeah sre if somethings bothering someonethey'll be thinkingn about it, but they would be distracted sooner r later.

7/07/2010 #28
fictionullFreaK

Tym: Okay, thanks!

7/07/2010 #29
fictionullFreaK

I seem to be here a lot...

There seem to be quite a few poets here, so I have a question for you falks: Does poetry have to have a rhyme scheme?

7/15/2010 #30
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