We have all, I'm sure, read about "forced seduction" or "non consensual BDSM". I am of the opinion that such areNOT seduction or BDSM but crimes. Owning your body, NO ONE has a right to do anything to it without your consent. "not knowing what you want", screw that! I am in here, and while I may not always know what is best for me... since I am IN HERE, I get to make those decisions.

Opinions? Or have you read romances that do this in a credible way?

My Heather/Kuro is a nonconsensual pairing.

Many times, when a character (or even a real person) is losing his or her virginity, the sex itself is arguably nonconsensual. Usually it's the female or the "bottom" that doesn't necessarily "want" to have sex but she feels pressured because she loves her partner and wants to prove it by enduring what is essentially forced seduction.

In the case of Heather/Kuro, it's not that she loves Kuroshi and so endures it but that she literally has no other option. He owns her and is much more powerful than she. He also thinks nothing of killing humans, so if she doesn't want to risk pissing him off and possibly getting seriously injured/killed, she'll go along with what he wants.

In the case of one of my other pairings, Natsu and his lover Hiromu, Natsu is the submissive partner. But he struggles with codependence and low self esteem. He's been in love with Hiromu for many years but never had the courage to ask him out. So when Hiromu finally starts to show interest (after Natsu was drugged at a party) he finds himself in a very tight spot. He could resist, and Hiro probably would back off, but if he does it'll turn Hiro off and he might never get another shot.

Natsu's self esteem is so low that he doesn't believe he is loveable. His body is nice and he is able to give his lover physical pleasure, so he does so without admitting that sex hurts and that he doesn't honestly want it.

So technically neither Hiromu or Kuroshi is committing a crime. Kuroshi is simply using a product he owns and Hiromu is unaware that his partner is being coerced.

Hmmm, just because someone does not enjoy sex, or dislikes it is not the same as non-consensual. `going along is consensual, even if it is not necesarily what you want. If that were the case almost every person would beguilty of rapê, lol, as every relationship has moments where one or the other isn;t 100 percent into it to start.

Well both couples ive mentioned do have clear cases of nonconsent. XD I promise. but that's a spoiler =3

Well, seeing as I do not do fantasy... ever... or for that matter sex with girls, I may have to live in ignorance. Unless you could point me to where these moments are, I would be interested to see how you turned it, but not enough to read a whole book of something not in my genre. I am sure your books are good, but it is just not my genre. I cannot get into fantasy I am afraid. Vamps and shifters make me cringe. "Other worlds" make me whimper. Magic makes me cry.

Oh dearest Lili,

I'm afraid you're talking to the wrong girl. I do have stories that are not fantasy, and do include noncon and some yummy male/male slash, however, I am not looking for reviews on them. They are complete.

Ooooo, now those I could read :) are they on here?

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