the whole disagreeing with you thing, ad then telling you about his girlfriend is such a guy move. You should act totally ok with it. And find the things he says cute. like if he go's "yeahh i took kelly out yesterday" be all non-shalaunt "and be like aww, cute" and just make the conversation interesting. Or just be like cute and then run from the conversation as soon as possible.

Ryan; I would probably still be dating him if my dad didn't have so may issues with ethnicity and had let me say yes.

Patrico; came out of the closet. Oops.

I never dated any of these guys, but I wanted too. I admited to all three of them that I liked them, and things were weird for awhile, but they got back to normal after awhile. My sister on the other hand, has dated EVERY SINGLE HETEROSEXUAL GUY FRIEND SHE HAS at one point, and now you can't even tell the difference. Quit freaking out about it; that does more damage to a friendship than just letting it pass or coming out and admitting it. Believe me; I should know. It all depends on if you let things get weird. No one wants to go out with someone who dances around them because they're weirded out about the relationship.

And I wouldn't sugest kicking anyone in the balls, because the sitchuation can backfire to make you look like the **. If you can goad him into doing something stupid enough to warrent slowing down--i.e. get him ticked enough to maybe threaten you--then kicking him in the balls is a matter of self defense and will make his life hell afterward. So you get both long and short term gratification.

I know how you feel about the mixed signals. I am getting them everyday.

This guy kissed me after prom and he knows I like him. He likes someone else who does not go to this school, and she doesn't know. He told me it was an accident, we're just friends...blah blah blah.

Now he flirts, and then acts like he doesn't. Honestly, I would say that it sounds like he likes you, but knowing how things are going for me, I can't honestly say. Some guys just need to grow up!

I think telling us how they feel may somehow interfear with thier "manhood" or something. I'm not sure, but there are a lot of guys that I know who think they are God's gift to women.

It's just how open you are with the one you love.

One of my best guy friends just hocked up with their best friend. And it working out just fine. (Of course he is older then me. He’s 19 almost 20.) I still think they are to young to start their relationship, but so far, so good. Maybe the whole best friend turn into couples thing, depends on how strong the friendship was before. Personally, I don’t think I would ever go out with my best friend. I value our friendship too much! Its very hard to stay best friends with a person you’ve been with. But that just my opinion!

And then I have ANOTHER guy friend who's in grade 5 (im in Year 7) and we have a great time just mucking around in band practice, except that his sister points her violin at us and goes, Flirt Alert! Flirt Alert!

I believe that it's quiet often that one party begins feeling feelings for the other. Mainly this is caused by spending time together all the time, sharing secrets, moments, all things that would be remembered in ones heart. Though often those feelings (With much time and heart break) will fade.

So answering the original question: I believe after time girls and guys can be nothing BUT friends (Though I'm sure some serious crushing had once occured) I think the only rare thing is when the two like each other at the same time. :p

I believe that it's quiet often that one party begins feeling feelings for the other. Mainly this is caused by spending time together all the time, sharing secrets, moments, all things that would be remembered in ones heart. Though often those feelings (With much time and heart break) will fade.

So answering the original question: I believe after time girls and guys can be nothing BUT friends (Though I'm sure some serious crushing had once occured) I think the only rare thing is when the two like each other at the same time. :p

D'you know, I sorta get the idea that this best-friends-turned-lovers cliche mostly happens in Western countries (if it happens at all, that is)... Where're all the Asians? Stand, brothers, and make yourself heard!!!

Okay, utter lameness. Anyway, I do like a good cliche of that sort. Kinda. (Ya know, the "good cliche" part is starting to look like an oxymoron to me...) But it's almost impossible in real life, because how many people ever get to find their one true love? If soulmates existed, it should only be fair that everyone find their other half... Otherwise it'd be like an unfair advantage thing. Best friends turned lovers? Unlikely; mostly best friends end up being of the same sex. Yes, there are BFFs who are of different sexes, but how many BFFs have you seen who are like that? So unless you're implying that the best friends are ** or bi, I can safely say it almost never happens.

But then again, who wouldn't have loved for that to happen to ourselves?

-fA

I've managed to be friends with guys before, like close friends, well. All but one of them anyway.

This one we were practically glued together but he was with my best friend when I started liking him and struck up the friendship with him. We became best friends really fast and I know him soooo well. But then it seems everytime he's dating someone, I'm single and vice versa. Its like its not meant to be. But then everytime I'm with someone he like flaunts it in my face by getting with my best friend [who isnt my best friend anymore after numerous fallings out] all the time despite how badly she hurts him. Yet I'm always here haha.

It sucks.

But on NYE, my friend told him how I was feeling for the past 2 years and he hasn't spoken to me properly since then, til this weekend just gone. Its crappy. But...I love the cliche. It gives me false hope haha. Love reading stories about it!

Girls and guys can totally be just friends. I'd use a witty example from my own life, but my group of friends basically makes up the Gay-Straight-Alliance (including miscellaneous transgender boy), so my examples would fail pretty badly. If you're talking about being non-sexual friends with someone of the same gender you are attracted to, that I can attest to working.

As far as plots go, I think that it works logically but it's beginning to border on cliche. If it's executed well, however, it has great potential.

Both can happen. I mean when we have a friend who is a guy or a girl you can develop feelings for them because you're basically with them all the time. But it can happen that you're just really good friends for your life. I mean I have a guy friend and I can honestly say I have no feelings for him whatsoever but I'm not ruling out the fact that in maybe a couple of years it could happen. If you know what I mean.

Yeah, its true. It can happen yet me a my best friends are living proof it's not always like that. I mean i saw my best friend in nappies/diapers together! We once even bathed together and my mum even has the picture. Its shameful really. Anyway, i love him like a brother... like a friend he's just my fiend just different sex. But i have to say something, his girlfriends are so jealous of our relationship. What's up with that? I don't even TOUCH him in front of them.

So, you get my bit.

My friend and me are like brother and sister. Really in the fact we're that close. The most annoying thing about having a guy friend, I think, is the fact that everyone thinks you have to be together, which introduces that cliche. Everyone thinks just because we've known each other since Primary school we'd be perfect for each other. Although I'd never dismiss me and him getting together though I really can't imagine it but who knows?

people don't notice that most friends are just friends. possibly the fact is that when a guy and a girl are best friends, others like to fantasize and feed off the possibility that they will be together or something.

Two friends (a guy & a girl) deciding to have a relationship other than friendship works in real life, but I have to admit, that kind of story doesn't really appeal to me. I especially don't like stories where the guy and the girl have lived in common existance for years and years with not a spark of interest between them and then all of a sudden - kaboom! The guy decides that the girl deserves some more attention other than friendship after all.

There's a whole thing called the Westermarck effect. If you grow up with someone, you tend not to be attracted to them later (hence why most people aren't attracted to siblings they've grown up with). It applies to almost anyone, not just people you're related to by blood, effectively putting your 'best friend since diapers' on the same level as your brother.

Weird thing is, if you and your sibling are separated you and you meet later in life, you're more likely to find them attractive.

(Or so the theory goes.)

I can understand the best friend being a guy thing. I have two best friends (brother and sister actually) and everyone used to assume I was dating my guy friend because we hug all the time and were always together. The truth was I was actually dating another friend of ours, but my guy friend and I had a couple of classes together while my boyfriend and I didn't. So people saw me with my guy friend rather than my boyfriend and assumed he was my boyfriend.

Seeing this in real life, I have used the same thing in one of my stories (Deep Majic). My main character, Kya Eyks, has a best friend who just happens to be a guy, but because they are always together and they're really close, everyone assumes they are dating. Their relationship is closer to brother and sister but because they are not related... Yeah.

In another one of my stories (Animal Speaker), Sandra Harris is dating one guy and the new guy becomes her best friend. Later, when she finally breaks up with her boyfriend - not a really nice guy by the way - she starts dating her friend.

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I think it works. I'm a guy and i have many friends who are girls... but most of teh time, people do tend to start liking the other person... especially if they're both nice looking.

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Does it have to do with looks? But I guess: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You might thing one of your friends is pretty, other people might not. Although, a good friend can be a pretty friend and that's the end of it. Like something pretty to look at. I have a "cute" ('cause I tend to absolutely love anything cute... such exaggeration) stuffed turtle at home... eh nvm, gotta come up with some better example. xP

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