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Girlbrainiac
Topic: His Dark Materials
lol. Because I feel like a healthy debate, this is to discuss Phillip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" series, likes, dislikes, etc.

Girlbrainiac

#1 Jun 18th 2007, 8:41am
Marie Silver
It's been a while since I read it and I can't remember much about it being anti-church or anti-christianity but I remember there being angels and a version of hell with harpy's. I wasn't so keen on the first boook - I didn't understand much about the dark matter and I thought it was a bit slow but I loved the second book and thought the third was good. I think if I read it again now I'd see it a bit different and probably understand it more. I'm looking forward to the film though.

~Marie Silver~

#2 Jun 18th 2007, 10:23am
Estrella Drage
I absolutely loved His Dark Materials. I know that the story was geared towards younger kids, but I still think that it was awesome.

Although I was curious about the end of The Amber Spyglass. There was supposed to be this gigantic war. I thought it was funny because it seemed like Philip Pullman half forgot about the whole thing.

#3 Jun 28th 2007, 9:59pm
Moneta
Love His dark materials! Go lyra!! go will!! Theres a movie coming out, but i thought nicole kidman and daniel craige was a bit too old to be lyra and will. So i dont think its the same thing. But i still love'em!! Go subtle knife!!
#4 Aug 10th 2007, 5:41pm
Marie Silver
Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig play Lyra's parents (forgot their names) not Lyra and Will.

~Marie Silver~

#5 Aug 10th 2007, 6:12pm
Moneta
OOOOOOOO!!!! thank you sooo much!!
#6 Aug 10th 2007, 6:33pm
mzdarkstar
I'm reading The Subtle Knife now, and it's okay.

It's funny, because the Golden compass is coming out on my birthday (lol) so i might go to see it . . .

A girl I know didn't like the Amber Spyglass, there was something strange about the ending, she said.

Star* * *

#7 Dec 02nd 2007, 8:33am
awilla the hun
I liked the Northern Lights (that's the English name, for all you yankee types out there) because it could be read as a decent adventure story, with armoured bears and Oxford University and airships. Then it got all weird...

I got confused about halfway through the Subtle Knife, and things never really improved from then on in.

#8 Mar 09th, 6:21am
mzdarkstar
I get exactly what you mean . . .

Star* * *

#9 Mar 14th, 1:34pm
tuieri

Spectacularly subversive!

His Dark Materials serve as a foil for the Chronicle of Narnia, as a children's guide to free thought and atheism. But possibly the best thing about His Dark Materials series is that it is a group of books that get better as you get older, rather than the ever so common opposite reaction. Sure, reading this series in fifth grade, I didn't realize that it was anti-church. Then again I read the Chronicles of Narnia when I was in third grade and didn't realize that was pro-church either. I was pretty religiously unaware up til about 7th or 8th grade.

Even better, these books CAN be read without that atheistic note. You can read this as simply a fantasy series and acsribe no important qualities to it other than the enjoyment you recieve. But as you get older you can begin to understand some of the background that only makes passing mention (mostly cause Lyra pays it little interest) and, (to steal from TCoN), go further up and further in! Layers develop and you realize how understated Lyra's actions are made to seem when in reality, to some people, they are of utmost importance.

I thoroughly enjoyed the books when I first read them, I most recently read them in August and still enjoyed them then. I've meant to see the movie about half a dozen times but have yet to get around to it (I have much more time for books than I do for movies). I also recently read Paradise Lost which did a bit more illuminating for me.

#10 Apr 14th, 7:11am . Edited Apr 14th, 7:33am
mzdarkstar

I really enjoy them as well. I didn't realise it was anti-church until I'd finished the last book, and I was told by a friend. I had to go over it in my mind for a bit, but then I suddenly understood.

I quite liked the movie! Whenever smeone's daemon died, it would sort of explode into gold sparkle/dust things, which was really effective, I think.

However, because the film makers probably wanted a Happy Ending feel at the end, they didn't put in the end of the book (SPOILER! Please don't read the end of this paragragh if you haven't read the end of the first book;) which was that Roger dies. I thought it was strange to miss that out, because I thought it was a vital part of the story but there you go.

All in all, great books. Great movie.

Star* * *

#11 Apr 14th, 10:44am
Marie Silver

Have just finished Northern Lights yesterday as part of my uni course and I can't believe how amazing it was. I've read the book before but it was many years ago when I was younger and then I found it confusing. I didn't understand about Dust and other parts but now I get it all. And I'm actually enjoying studying the novel for me exam.

I thought the film was excellent but I think they should have put the ending of the book in the film since, as mzdarkstar pointed out, it's a vital part of the story and a strong, though sad, powerful ending. Not a patch on the books like.

Am itching to read The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass again but got to revise instead (damn exams).

~Marie Silver~

#12 May 14th, 10:40am
Olivier Craven

I absolutely love this series. I found myself really engrossed - although I skipped the physics parts slightly (I detest physics) but I forgot to go back and read the ending! I got up to the part near the end where - well, the bit that everybody cried over (I AVOIDED SPOILERS! YAY!) - and then I landed in exam territory and forgot to go back and read the ending.

I really envy Philip Pullman. How he manages to construct an epic, fantastic trilogy like that with few cliches is beyond me.

#13 May 14th, 11:13am

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