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Silver Elementalist
Topic: What are Haiku?
I'm sure there are many people out and about that have never heard of this form of poetry. I was oblivious to it's existence myself weeks ago.

For people that are new to the genre, knowing exactly what it is is very important. I read in a book about Haiku that Haiku is a form of poetry used to share emotions with others through descriptions of single moments in time.

But what do other people think? What are Haiku?

#1 Feb 15th 2007, 8:04am
Midnight In Eden
Haiku to me is really just another verse form. I enjoy using such tight constraints to create such vivid pictures.

In the more traditional sense, to the Japanese it was a very important and serious topical form. Wherein there was one word, the kigo, that summed up the content of the story, which was most often the "season" of the piece.

In the more contemporary English forms, the topical constraints are much looser with it normally just having the form constraints of the five, seven, five syllable lines.

#2 Feb 16th 2007, 10:09pm
He Ba Oi
I was never one for Haiku, personally.

I never understood the meaning or something... What with my favorite Haiku written by me being a hick family picking up a dead cow that was hit by a car. It was frozen=winter.

Besides, the normal themes usually bore me for some reason. I have nothing against it, it just does me no good.

However, it is a pretty interesting way to challenge your mind.

#3 Feb 20th 2007, 6:25pm
Midnight In Eden
There are far more challenging verse forms out there.

Try making a pleiadic for example, it's so difficult to keep the repetition interesting and to keep it in iambic pentameter.

#4 Feb 20th 2007, 6:36pm
Sophia Victoria
Oh, it's a powerful three-liner that uses a vivid imagery that makes it powerful!

x/ Dark Snow Angel /x

#5 Feb 21st 2007, 4:10am
Bitter Irony
Haiku can be thoughtful and enlightening, but more often than not it's just an excuse to write a short poem. Out of all the thousands of poems in the Haiku section of FP, I think only a handful have truely deep or original styles. That's not to say Haiku must reveal fundamental truths or anything--but if I read one with the phrases "butterfly wings" or "waterlilies" again, I think I might scream.

My prefered japanese syllable-counting form is the Tanka. You get the structure and imagery of Haiku, with more chance at social commentary.

~Bitter Irony

#6 Feb 23rd 2007, 9:56am
Midnight In Eden
I think the way to make a Haiku interesting is to make sure every syllable is necessary and interesting. To achieve this I think punctuation is really necessary.

I'm severely proud of my haikus but that's also because I hone them down until I think they're perfect (and yes I'm being arrogant, sorry :p).

#7 Feb 23rd 2007, 7:07pm
Basara
.....haiku, errr.... the greatest challenge of putting so much emotion into in the smallest lines ( if ever ) possible... mostly haikus are abstractly done or in focused in one subject matter... depends on the writer's style and technique... O.O... well, haikus are based on observation, emotion, or expirience...

that's all...?

#8 Feb 24th 2007, 11:53pm
Sophia Victoria
We are allowed to make our haikus but let's consider the basics . . . the five-seven-five syllables and the main essence: the powerful and vivid imagery.
#9 Feb 26th 2007, 3:47am
Midnight In Eden
I've decided after reading through a number of FP haikus that I really dislike haikus that are basically a seventeen syllable sentence split into three lines.

I think each line needs to bring a new level to the piece, not just be part of a sentence that wouldn't make sense without the whole.

But maybe that's just me being picky.

#10 Feb 26th 2007, 6:44pm
Sophia Victoria
You're not picky, you have just made a good point. That is the Japanese tradition of making a haiku and I'm not really going to break it, for there sake! Um, I know of a better alternative called 'tanka'.
#11 Mar 01st 2007, 3:48am
Basara
am I part of them? just wondering....
#12 Mar 01st 2007, 5:01am
Sophia Victoria
No, you're not. You outlined your haiku too well.
#13 Mar 02nd 2007, 7:29pm
D S Rollins
Ah, the great japanese born and bred form, haiku.

I knew about the form, but never knew how to write it, or what it is actually trying to put across. Haiku is a japanese form of poetry that enhances your sense perceptions. It pretty much enhances them, so when you read one, depending on which sense the haiku is outlining, that sense becomes more stronger because of the amount of imagery in such a few words. The typical form is the 5, 7, 5.

#14 Mar 04th 2007, 9:42am
Honor Bound
a haiku is a challenge to put as much emotion and imagery possible into three lines of 5, 7, 5, (in the english form anyway). personally i can spin them out almost without thinking in most cases, and as such many arent very good, but then a few i think are decent.

but yeah, a specific point in time or emotion or experience is a good way to put it, given the briefness of haikus, you cant put much more in(unless your awesome), but they also can give much more in multiple depths of meaning. a favorite form of writing for me.

#15 Mar 08th 2007, 11:57am
Chameleon81
Haiku's can be simple to write or very difficult to write. It's what it means to you. I recently discovered Haiku and am very fond of it. I've been reading many authors and varieties. Haiku is almost like a puzzle - to capture a moment or feeling in 5-7-5 is brilliant when done right. I have read many very good ones on Fictionpress.
#16 Apr 25th 2007, 7:41am
RDraconis
Haiku never really made much sense to me.... I never saw one that I liked, is all. I don't know, I like things like Paul Revere's ride where hte poem tells a story even though it goes on for frikkin ever. ^^;

I've written a couple before.

Um... I guess, to me, Haiku is technically a poem that follows that 5,7,5 or whatever rule. It's also, when well done, capable of making a pretty good, strong statement and make you think without making words.

It's also extremely fun to make fun of, according to the comics.

I dunno, maybe it'd be more appealing if you were from wherever the form originated. I know dad was talking about how Japanese films tend ot use a lot of symbolism, so an american will be sitting there going "wtf? It's just a flower..." and someone more familiar with it might say "No... it means this and this and this"

#17 Apr 25th 2007, 1:56pm
liz anya
To me, a haiku is simply a more compact form of poetry in which leaving out some things, everything is being said. It's a great method for emphasis on a subject.
#18 May 04th 2007, 10:06pm
Detective CelestialGazer42
Well, like what everyone has said a haiku is basic a poem with lines that go five seven five. Well, most tends to have meanings but it doesn't need to. It can be simple and funny!

Mouse ran up a tree,

The tree hid in the shadows,

Of a very thick grove,

that didn't make a lot of meaning out, but it was yet a picture painted and also a little story.

#19 May 16th 2007, 11:14pm

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